Crazy cross-shopping? - Page 2

DenverTaco07 · 10-19-2015, 09:01 AM

I'm looking for something that I believe will keep my eyes from "wondering", something that will still be "kick ass" in 15 years (i don't want to spend $60K + for a weekend driver and then 5 years later want something else cuz i lost interest)

For me those are:

C7 Z06
Camaro Six ZL1
Maybe the next FI mustang (GT 500?) if they come out with one
Challenger hellcat could be if it weighed 500 to 600 lbs less.

Cars like Mercedes AMG, BMW M3 M4, and others, while very impressive machines, I can't see them doing for me what I want long term.

pdoherty972 · 10-19-2015, 09:26 AM

I'm considering the following as the next car from my current 2013 370Z (with HKS Hi-Power catback, Stillen G3 CAI, and UpRev tune):

2015 or 2016 Stingray Z06
2016 Stingray 2LT
2016 Camaro 2SS

jaymsu · 10-19-2015, 10:43 AM

I was cross shopping between:
1) ATS-V
2) CTS Vsport
3) Camaro SS
4) Chevy SS
5) Corvette C7
in this order.

However, once I saw the real one at the MPG and heard it going WOT, I was sold.
ATS-V will be a nice car, but didn't want to buy 70K car that I will drive 20k miles or more a year.
CTS Vsport is very roomy, comfortable and have decent punch, but not sporty enough to have fun from time to time on track, when I want to take family out to track.
Chevy SS is great value car with familiar engine, but it is just too heavy, and has same problem as CTS Vsport, only bit cheaper (price) and bit cheaper (interior).
C7.... I love Corvettes a lot, but it just feels wrong to drive Corvettes during winter in Michigan, and this is the only car that doesn't have back seat out of all the cars I was considering. (I know I know.. Camaro's back seat isn't really for seating, some may say, but at least it's there for emergency use)

My Camaro should be built this week, and I'm very excited.
Cross shopping time is done for me, and it's cross finger time.

Cam 6 · 10-19-2015, 10:56 AM

2SS or Z51

Fraxum · 10-19-2015, 12:26 PM

No one said it here yet I do not think but discussed at length elsewhere:

Used ZL1. Lots of reasons to choose the Z. But the CA6 SS sounds like a great car too.

mt3130 · 10-19-2015, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fraxum

No one said it here yet I do not think but discussed at length elsewhere:

Used ZL1. Lots of reasons to choose the Z. But the CA6 SS sounds like a great car too.

As much as a ZL1 would be awesome, I don't want to have a used FI car that someone else has beat on, especially when you consider the 6th gen vs. 5th gen ZL1 is a driver's race, and a used ZL1 isn't much cheaper than a new SS.

Add little to no warranty on top of that, and there's very little temptation, for me at least. I know it's a more compelling choice to many others.

Tr6 · 10-19-2015, 02:03 PM

It all depends on exactly what you are looking for. When pricing is the only subject for cross checking, amount of vehicles that fit into that is crazy.

2 door, 4 door, suv, crossover etc. It pretty much includes every vehicle there is. If you are looking for performance, gen 6 from my research is the best bang for the buck (under 50k). Thus, I ordered one. Now, do you want 4 door performance? Hatch performance? A LOT of factors will make you decide on your vehicle.

SuperSound · 10-19-2015, 04:37 PM

Currently on my list is:

'16 Camaro 2SS
'16 Charger Scat Pack
'16 Mustang GT Premium

I've been much axed the Mustang, too many things I don't like. I picked the Charger instead of the Challenger because if I can get that kind of performance, might as well have 4 doors and space. 2SS is definitely the one I want right now, but things can change by the time I order next year. Definitely going to try to go V8 or bust this time.

Alternatives if I need to save some cash are:

'16 Camaro 2LT (V6)
'16 Charger RT
'16 VW GTI (will probably be able to get a great deal on one finally with Dieselgate!)

Sledgehammer70 · 10-19-2015, 05:04 PM

My cross shopping was a 2013-2015 ZL1. Overall I passed on the epicness of a ZL1 as the cost was still about 3K more than I wanted to spend over my 16 2SS, and the overall upkeep and cost was a huge factor. Also, the new G6 styling won me over.

Most who drive ZL1's do not drive the mileage I do. Based on the rating I would need new tires all the time, or need to buy a 2nd set of wheels and get daily driver tires. Also, once that warranty expires, I do not want to deal with costs of repairing a supercharged motor down the road. I plan to keep this car well beyond its warranty. Regardless all of the above added to the already $3K more price point and priced me out.

I chose a big family over a pricey car. Will have to wait for the kids to graduate college or my job to pay me even more to get to the higher tier and feel comfortable.

The Corvette went out the window simply because I do not fit. My back is to broad and the car is uncomfortable for me. Not to mention it falls in line with the pricing issue of the ZL1.

Last note: I just can't bare buying a car like this used. I take car of my cars beyond what most call reasonable

It's a hobby and love for me, but overall most used cars... you have no idea how they were driven and the upkeep they really got.

lgKido · 10-22-2015, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcsoul

I know, confusion is a personal specialty. This is one shopping trait of mine that my wife really hates too. If $40k is the entry price to something I consider good enough, adding $10k for cross shopping somehow seems reasonable to me, even though it does not sound that way.

aspensilver · 10-22-2015, 01:22 PM

Heh, the Camaro is my weird Cross-shop

Gen6 performance numbers and a week in a gen5 made me crawl over here.

Mustang GT S550
BMW M5 E39
Merc C63
Camaro SS Gen6
135I

Camaro is probably out due to needing a bigger trunk opening and better visibility but it might be the car to take to the track for the funnest moments so it's tough to miss out on that.

Blackdevil77 · 10-22-2015, 01:29 PM

I'm cross shopping the Camaro and a Corvette C7. I don't need the backseat so that has no influence on my decision. Just waiting to see what they do with the Vette for 2017. I'm hoping they worked out some of the bugs and hope it gets a little power bump.

SuperSound · 10-22-2015, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspensilver

Heh, the Camaro is my weird Cross-shop

Gen6 performance numbers and a week in a gen5 made me crawl over here.

Mustang GT S550
BMW M5 E39
Merc C63
Camaro SS Gen6
135I

Camaro is probably out due to needing a bigger trunk opening and better visibility but it might be the car to take to the track for the funnest moments so it's tough to miss out on that.

I'm not sure how the 1 series is in trunk space, but my 328i is too swallow to put a lot of things. My wife's Fiesta actually can hold as much and some bigger items. Be sure to take one and see for yourself.

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Mud Z06 · 10-22-2015, 02:28 PM

Don't crucify me...

But a Golf R. Instead of having a daily + a Camaro a 300hp R with AWD, 4 doors, 6-speed manual and a hatch for year-round fun seems tempting (AND practical. I need back seats.)

But I don't think I could be without a V8 in the garage.

10-19-2015, 09:01 AM	#15
DenverTaco07 Drives: 2017 SS 1LE, 2017 Volt, 2013 Pilot Join Date: May 2014 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,274	I'm looking for something that I believe will keep my eyes from "wondering", something that will still be "kick ass" in 15 years (i don't want to spend $60K + for a weekend driver and then 5 years later want something else cuz i lost interest) For me those are: C7 Z06 Camaro Six ZL1 Maybe the next FI mustang (GT 500?) if they come out with one Challenger hellcat could be if it weighed 500 to 600 lbs less. Cars like Mercedes AMG, BMW M3 M4, and others, while very impressive machines, I can't see them doing for me what I want long term. __________________ 2017 SS 1LE \| HBM \| Vortech V3-Si supercharger (620RWHP and 575ft lbs) \| PDR \| Black Bowties \| Illuminated Front Black Bowtie \| Illuminated Door Sills \| Smoked Tails \| vented seats mod

10-19-2015, 10:43 AM	#17
jaymsu Yeti's Daddy Drives: ATS-V, Prowler, M6 V10 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,011	I was cross shopping between: 1) ATS-V 2) CTS Vsport 3) Camaro SS 4) Chevy SS 5) Corvette C7 in this order. However, once I saw the real one at the MPG and heard it going WOT, I was sold. ATS-V will be a nice car, but didn't want to buy 70K car that I will drive 20k miles or more a year. CTS Vsport is very roomy, comfortable and have decent punch, but not sporty enough to have fun from time to time on track, when I want to take family out to track. Chevy SS is great value car with familiar engine, but it is just too heavy, and has same problem as CTS Vsport, only bit cheaper (price) and bit cheaper (interior). C7.... I love Corvettes a lot, but it just feels wrong to drive Corvettes during winter in Michigan, and this is the only car that doesn't have back seat out of all the cars I was considering. (I know I know.. Camaro's back seat isn't really for seating, some may say, but at least it's there for emergency use) My Camaro should be built this week, and I'm very excited. Cross shopping time is done for me, and it's cross finger time. __________________ 2SS Nightfall Grey /Adrenaline red interior NPP / MRC / Nav / 6 Spd 1100: 7/27/15 <SSWNNN> 3000: 9/04/15 <TPW:10/19/15> 3800: 10/19/15 <VIN: 117740> 6000: 12/16/15

10-19-2015, 12:26 PM	#19
Fraxum Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,520	No one said it here yet I do not think but discussed at length elsewhere: Used ZL1. Lots of reasons to choose the Z. But the CA6 SS sounds like a great car too. __________________ "Democracy Dies in Darkness" My LT1 Keeper ..... ..... My Car Blog CarPlayList, a free App to build USB and Android Music drives.

10-19-2015, 02:03 PM	#21
Tr6 The Dogfather Drives: #1 off the line for a customer. '16 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Andover, KS Posts: 2,621	It all depends on exactly what you are looking for. When pricing is the only subject for cross checking, amount of vehicles that fit into that is crazy. 2 door, 4 door, suv, crossover etc. It pretty much includes every vehicle there is. If you are looking for performance, gen 6 from my research is the best bang for the buck (under 50k). Thus, I ordered one. Now, do you want 4 door performance? Hatch performance? A LOT of factors will make you decide on your vehicle. __________________ 2SS, Garnet Red with Adrenalin red, NPP, MRC M6 coupe #33 off the line #1 order for Customer. Build thread HERE! Story of my delivery HERE!

10-19-2015, 04:37 PM	#22
SuperSound Drives: '17 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 5,063 View My Garage	Currently on my list is: '16 Camaro 2SS '16 Charger Scat Pack '16 Mustang GT Premium I've been much axed the Mustang, too many things I don't like. I picked the Charger instead of the Challenger because if I can get that kind of performance, might as well have 4 doors and space. 2SS is definitely the one I want right now, but things can change by the time I order next year. Definitely going to try to go V8 or bust this time. Alternatives if I need to save some cash are: '16 Camaro 2LT (V6) '16 Charger RT '16 VW GTI (will probably be able to get a great deal on one finally with Dieselgate!) __________________ Current: '17 2SS Hyper Blue, A8, MRC, NPP Past: '99 SS Camaro A4, '73 Camaro 383 A3 "Voices in your head are not considered insider information." 3800 Status - 6/16/16 (Built!) 6000 status - 6/29/16 (Delivered!)

10-19-2015, 09:26 AM	#16
pdoherty972 Drives: 2013 370Z sports Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Dallas Posts: 169	I'm considering the following as the next car from my current 2013 370Z (with HKS Hi-Power catback, Stillen G3 CAI, and UpRev tune): 2015 or 2016 Stingray Z06 2016 Stingray 2LT 2016 Camaro 2SS

10-19-2015, 10:56 AM	#18
Cam 6 Drives: 2018 Colorado ZR2 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 557	2SS or Z51

10-19-2015, 05:04 PM	#23
Sledgehammer70 Lethal Camaro Drives: 16 2SS, 71 Std, Suburban RTS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 3,855 View My Garage	My cross shopping was a 2013-2015 ZL1. Overall I passed on the epicness of a ZL1 as the cost was still about 3K more than I wanted to spend over my 16 2SS, and the overall upkeep and cost was a huge factor. Also, the new G6 styling won me over. Most who drive ZL1's do not drive the mileage I do. Based on the rating I would need new tires all the time, or need to buy a 2nd set of wheels and get daily driver tires. Also, once that warranty expires, I do not want to deal with costs of repairing a supercharged motor down the road. I plan to keep this car well beyond its warranty. Regardless all of the above added to the already $3K more price point and priced me out. I chose a big family over a pricey car. Will have to wait for the kids to graduate college or my job to pay me even more to get to the higher tier and feel comfortable. The Corvette went out the window simply because I do not fit. My back is to broad and the car is uncomfortable for me. Not to mention it falls in line with the pricing issue of the ZL1. Last note: I just can't bare buying a car like this used. I take car of my cars beyond what most call reasonable It's a hobby and love for me, but overall most used cars... you have no idea how they were driven and the upkeep they really got. __________________ Thanks My Build Thread \| Lethal Garage YouTube \| Lethal Camaro IG \| Last edited by Sledgehammer70; 10-19-2015 at 07:55 PM.

10-22-2015, 01:22 PM	#25
aspensilver Drives: 1997 BMW 540I Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: East Bay, CA Posts: 13	Heh, the Camaro is my weird Cross-shop Gen6 performance numbers and a week in a gen5 made me crawl over here. Mustang GT S550 BMW M5 E39 Merc C63 Camaro SS Gen6 135I Camaro is probably out due to needing a bigger trunk opening and better visibility but it might be the car to take to the track for the funnest moments so it's tough to miss out on that.

10-22-2015, 01:29 PM	#26
Blackdevil77 Drives: 2008 Pontiac G8 GT, Shelby GT500 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,376	I'm cross shopping the Camaro and a Corvette C7. I don't need the backseat so that has no influence on my decision. Just waiting to see what they do with the Vette for 2017. I'm hoping they worked out some of the bugs and hope it gets a little power bump.

10-22-2015, 02:28 PM	#28
Mud Z06 Drives: Car Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Location Posts: 135	Don't crucify me... But a Golf R. Instead of having a daily + a Camaro a 300hp R with AWD, 4 doors, 6-speed manual and a hatch for year-round fun seems tempting (AND practical. I need back seats.) But I don't think I could be without a V8 in the garage.

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