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It runs on LT4 oil pumps.
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06-08-2023, 10:48 AM | #16 |
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It is all BS.
No one wants an EV Camaro. The Camaro is 1% of GM's sales yet its emissions/cafe are a big problem? I am not buying its supposed detrimental impact. A six speed LT1 is very efficient in comparison to the trucks they pump out by the millions. A warmed over 7th gen hybrid could hit the marks. Why do CT4/5s get two more years? GM can't even build enough Camaros (again at 1% of sales) to meet demand. How are they going to meet the demand for EVs that they claim is so much greater? Recall that Queen Mary and Reuss ran to the whitehouse after Trump won to beg for an EV excecutive order mandate. He said no. Ask yourself why they did that. Last edited by triggerjerk; 06-08-2023 at 12:16 PM. |
06-08-2023, 01:04 PM | #17 |
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It's low sales, not fuel economy stuff.
Car culture has been in decline since the 80s when home video game consoles went mainstream. Even as horsepower crept back up, sales continued to decline. Cellphones and DUI laws dealt the finishing blow to cars as a social tool. A unnecessarily fast car is more of a status symbol now. People just assume you have money to burn and a pickup as your main vehicle. |
06-08-2023, 01:26 PM | #18 |
True Answer: It's all the retarded liberals fault
Yeah, also to dramatically increase EV stock shares these crooks have bought with their illegal insider trading.
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06-08-2023, 02:37 PM | #19 |
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Anyone know any politicians that aren't wealthy?
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06-08-2023, 03:02 PM | #20 | |
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Believe it or not, the government seems to have actually reduced Wall Street's control since the bailout (they forced out Waggoner, Yay!!). Do you think they want GM building all these unprofitable EVs? Not on your life. Their preference would be to get dragged kicking and screaming into building them. |
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06-08-2023, 03:12 PM | #21 |
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Off topic but perhaps relevant. If you follow baseball at all you probably know the St. Louis Cardinals are horrible this year despite being predicted to be very good. The forum I'm on has been savaging the team's management for moves they should have made and and mistakes they are making now. A couple of weeks ago the forum literally just disappeared (with no coherent explanation) from the internet despite supposedly being sponsored by an independent organization. I don't like coincidences.
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06-08-2023, 03:13 PM | #22 |
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Echoing FarmerFran, this is the second time the Camaro has been killed (2002-2009).
The Dodge Challenger was killed twice so far (1974-1978, 1983-2008) and the Gen 2 (1978-1983) was a 4 cylinder Japanese rebadge - that’s arguably a mercy killing! The Mustang and Corvette have been the only models to stay in production continuously. And surprise, the Challenger is beating the Mustang’s sales again this year so far. https://www.thedrive.com/news/dodge-...-again-in-2022 We all just need to unwad our panties and enjoy our rides. |
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06-08-2023, 03:54 PM | #24 |
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the reality no is talking about is the Camaro hasn't been selling , but neither have the small Cadillacs. it's difficult to sustain a chassis line that isn't selling, and we're right back to truck/ suv craze that dinged the 4th gen.
meanwhile Fiat has been selling Challengers on a platform that dates back 20 years to Daimler
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I bought 3 since Gen5 was introduced.
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06-08-2023, 04:19 PM | #26 |
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And how many YEARS has it been since the home page here has been updated? Camaro apathy is everywhere.
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06-08-2023, 04:34 PM | #27 | |
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Why did they only care about sales now and not refresh the car as planned for '20? Are you saying the fake MBAs here are wrong about GM not expecting a profit on the car and never planned to sell that many? |
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06-08-2023, 04:37 PM | #28 |
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I think if the Camaro would have ended in the previous 2-3 years, no one would have been surprised. The 6th Gen was getting pretty long in the tooth anyhow, aside from the sales numbers being low....
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