[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by mr02Z/28

Per Chevrolet's site, a 2015 Corvette Stingray Z51 3LT coupe = 3,298lbs ...... I'm so excited to see the 2016 Camaro curb weights !!!!!!!!

A loaded z51 stingray is around 3450lbs. Manufacturers list base curb weights of the most basic model.

Guessing the weight you are seeing is the base weight. Z51 adds larger brakes and other things which increase weight.

http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/co...51_first_test/

3444 lbs

http://m.caranddriver.com/reviews/20...update-reviews

3436 lbs

[amerhash28]

Originally Posted by Waiting46

Computers will always be faster than you; hydraulics will always be stronger than you. When put together properly, humans wind up slowing the system down more than speeding it up.

Older technology wasn't as efficient, not as fast, not as strong. Weve now gotten to the point where we can build a complex system strong enough to handle that much horsepower and torque, and still do it better than you, even if only minimally.

People make mistakes, computers only make mistakes theyre programmed to make.

Its pretty amazing what this trany can do.the auto one has two extra doors more curb weight and its still much faster than the manual! I think the only good thing left in the manuals is the fun,I guess.

[amerhash28]

Originally Posted by Mr Pinchy

Really? You don't get it? You do realize this is a different transmission than what is in your ricer. You can never shift gears faster than this automatic transmission. That is why it is faster, understand?

My "Ricer" has one of the most advanced 8 speeds in the world.ZF is the same transmission used in high end BMWs such as the M6.so the next time you try to be disrespectful,do some research so you don't make a joke out of your self.good day

[High Magnitude]

Originally Posted by mt3130

Easy, just look at the C7 numbers. The Camaro numbers should be nearly identical.

You mean ATS V.

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by mr02Z/28

Per Chevrolet's site, a 2015 Corvette Stingray Z51 3LT coupe = 3,298lbs ...... I'm so excited to see the 2016 Camaro curb weights !!!!!!!!

Here is a good look at Vette weight.



The National Corvette Museum is holding its Bash event this weekend to officially kick off the 2013 season as well as the 2014 Corvette C7, and one of the official details that was revealed yesterday (besides C7 pricing info) was that the 2014 C7 coupe without the Z51 package has an estimated curb weight of 3,298 pounds (1,496 kg) — or 90 pounds (41 kg) heavier than the 2013 C6 coupe’s 3,208-pound (1,455 kg) curb weight.
Here are the detailed mass reductions and additions to the C7. Keep in mind that these may not be all-inclusive:
Areas Of Mass Reduction
Frame: 99 pounds lighter
Body panels: 37 pounds lighter
Hatch: several pounds lighter
Control arms: now hollow, several pounds
Total weight savings is in the vicinity of 150 pounds, or 68 kg.
Areas of Mass Addition
35.2 pounds — direct injection, VVT, AFM
6.6 pounds — standard engine oil cooler
13.2 pounds — dual mass clutch
15.4 pounds — steel torque tube part of AFM
5.5 pounds — AFM exhaust valves
11 pounds — 7th transmission speed
18.5 pounds — strengthened differential, half shafts
18.3 pounds — larger fixed brakes
17 pounds — new interior appointments and safety features
17.2 pounds — upgraded seats
18.5 pounds — structural safety requirements
31.5 pounds — new infotainment and cabin technology, as well as relocating battery to the rear
3 pounds — bigger fuel tank
That’s a total weight gain of 210 pounds, or 95 kg.
Opting for the Z51 performance package would add transmission and differential coolers, a rear sway bar, larger wheels, electronic differential, and a spoiler. Although unconfirmed, these changes will most likely result in the addition of 150-200 pounds.
The GM Authority Take


Read more: http://gmauthority.com/blog/2013/04/...#ixzz3h7TKqXh6

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by amerhash28

My "Ricer" has one of the most advanced 8 speeds in the world.ZF is the same transmission used in high end BMWs such as the M6.so the next time you try to be disrespectful,do some research so you don't make a joke out of your self.good day

The ZF was the A6. The A8 is an in-house transmission. So, if you have a 2014 you don't have a ZF.

[amerhash28]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

The ZF was the A6. The A8 is an in-house transmission. So, if you have a 2014 you don't have a ZF.

It is an 8spd ZF im sure of it because it is my car.(mine is 2013 with 2014 newface)

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by amerhash28

My "Ricer" has one of the most advanced 8 speeds in the world.ZF is the same transmission used in high end BMWs such as the M6.so the next time you try to be disrespectful,do some research so you don't make a joke out of your self.good day

In my research, I can't find anything about the ZF 8HP transmission being used in Hyundais. Its used by BMW, Iveco, Fiat-Chrysler, Tata (Jaguar-Land Rover), and VW group. But I haven't seen anything about Hyundai using it. Upon further digging, I see that it was in fact developed in house by Hyundai themselves (autos.jdpower.com).

Be very careful when calling out people for not doing their research.

Originally Posted by High Magnitude

You mean ATS V.

He meant Corvette but was thinking dynos not performance specs. Read the thread:

Originally Posted by mt3130

My bad guys, when I read that, I was thinking dyno numbers, which I would expect to be nearly the same.

I think the estimates you are seeing above are probably pretty close to where the final numbers will lie.

[mt3130]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

The ZF was the A6. The A8 is an in-house transmission. So, if you have a 2014 you don't have a ZF.

This is correct. The A6 was made by ZF. The A8 is not.

Originally Posted by amerhash28

It is an 8spd ZF im sure of it because it is my car.(mine is 2013 with 2014 newface)

Here is a video posted by Hyundai clearly stating that the 8 speed transmission was developed by Hyundai.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by amerhash28

It is an 8spd ZF im sure of it because it is my car.(mine is 2013 with 2014 newface)

Might want to change your profile because it says you have a 2014. The early 2013s did have a ZF automatic, but it was a six speed. Since late 2013 you could only get a A8 and it was built in-house using their own technology.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by mt3130

This is correct. The A6 was made by ZF. The A8 is not.





Here is a video posted by Hyundai clearly stating that the 8 speed transmission was developed by Hyundai.

^THIS.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

In my research, I can't find anything about the ZF 8HP transmission being used in Hyundais. Its used by BMW, Iveco, Fiat-Chrysler, Tata (Jaguar-Land Rover), and VW group. But I haven't seen anything about Hyundai using it. Upon further digging, I see that it was in fact developed in house by Hyundai themselves (autos.jdpower.com).

Be very careful when calling out people for not doing their research.

He meant Corvette but was thinking dynos not performance specs. Read the thread:

Originally Posted by mt3130

This is correct. The A6 was made by ZF. The A8 is not.




Here is a video posted by Hyundai clearly stating that the 8 speed transmission was developed by Hyundai.

Good info guys. I had mentioned this to him before but guess he forgot. Regardless amerhash28, you have seen the videos of the 8L90 auto in action in the Corvette and ATS, it is far better than your 8 speed right? Seeing is believing.

[Tractionless]

Originally Posted by amerhash28

It is an 8spd ZF im sure of it because it is my car.(mine is 2013 with 2014 newface)

Sorry to inform, but that is not a ZF transmission, its a Hyundai Powertech 8-Speed auto. Hyundai designed it based on the ZF Friedrichshafen 8-speed, but the design is patented by Hyundai. BorgWarner supplies the transmission components for Hyundai.



"Designed and assembled by Hyundai POWERTECH, the company's performance and R&D group, the new high-performance transmission features a multi-step design with a wide gear span."

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=augLMYhw2mkI

[amerhash28]

Originally Posted by Tractionless

Sorry to inform, but that is not a ZF transmission, its a Hyundai Powertech 8-Speed auto. Hyundai designed it based on the ZF Friedrichshafen 8-speed, but the design is patented by Hyundai. BorgWarner supplies the transmission components for Hyundai.




"Designed and assembled by Hyundai POWERTECH, the company's performance and R&D group, the new high-performance transmission features a multi-step design with a wide gear span."

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=augLMYhw2mkI

Damn.all this time I've thought its ZF....
man no wonder it lost to a manual because its BASED on the ZF.THIS SUCKS!