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Old 11-24-2017, 05:27 PM   #1
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Quieter Tire than the noisy Goodyear F1 Run Flats ?

I must say I am not a fan of the 245/40ZR20 OEM Goodyear Eagle F1 RunFlats.

I find they give a noisy ride with plenty hum that I don't care for. I'm fine
keeping a can of fix-a-flat in my trunk and dumping the RunFlats when
they wear out.

I always bought Hankook S1 Noble2 for my previous car and liked
how grippy and quiet they were. I live in Florida so I can run summer
tires all year. Hankook also makes a V12 EVO2 Summer tire which
may be even quieter than the All Weather Noble2.

Does anyone have any advice for the "best grip and quiet" option at a
decent price? On TireRack I am seeing:

SUMITOMO HTR Z III
DUNLOP DIREZZA DZ102
HANKOOK VENTUS V12 EVO2
YOKOHAMA S.DRIVE
KUMHO ECSTA PS91

Of one more thing..
The Goodyear OEMs have a treadwear rating of 500 so how are people
only getting 15,000 miles life out of them? The summer only tires have
a treadwear ratings closer to 300 so does this mean the quieter summer
tires will last only 9,000 miles ??

Thanks for the advice
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Old 11-24-2017, 06:18 PM   #2
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I must say I am not a fan of the 245/40ZR20 OEM Goodyear Eagle F1 RunFlats.

I find they give a noisy ride with plenty hum that I don't care for. I'm fine
keeping a can of fix-a-flat in my trunk and dumping the RunFlats when
they wear out.

I always bought Hankook S1 Noble2 for my previous car and liked
how grippy and quiet they were. I live in Florida so I can run summer
tires all year. Hankook also makes a V12 EVO2 Summer tire which
may be even quieter than the All Weather Noble2.

Does anyone have any advice for the "best grip and quiet" option at a
decent price? On TireRack I am seeing:

SUMITOMO HTR Z III
DUNLOP DIREZZA DZ102
HANKOOK VENTUS V12 EVO2
YOKOHAMA S.DRIVE
KUMHO ECSTA PS91

Of one more thing..
The Goodyear OEMs have a treadwear rating of 500 so how are people
only getting 15,000 miles life out of them? The summer only tires have
a treadwear ratings closer to 300 so does this mean the quieter summer
tires will last only 9,000 miles ??

Thanks for the advice
Go with Michelin pilot 4s (the 4s is not 4 season) , they are better than the fabulous Michelin pilot super sport, quiet, better mileage, better grip etc etc.
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Old 11-24-2017, 07:32 PM   #3
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PS4S would be amazing.

Also we have a dedicated tire section on this site.
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Old 11-25-2017, 02:28 PM   #4
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Wow, I just looked up those Michelin pilot 4s on tirerack..
Not including shipping and mounting:

$1,158.60 for 4 Michelin pilot 4s
$578.92 for 4 Hankook Ventus V12 EVO2

I think I'll try to pick the best bet from 5 choices I listed.
All 5 choices come in at 1/2 the price of those Michelins.

How do I move this post to the tires section ?
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Old 11-25-2017, 02:41 PM   #5
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Wow, I just looked up those Michelin pilot 4s on tirerack..
Not including shipping and mounting:

$1,158.60 for 4 Michelin pilot 4s
$578.92 for 4 Hankook Ventus V12 EVO2

I think I'll try to pick the best bet from 5 choices I listed.
All 5 choices come in at 1/2 the price of those Michelins.

How do I move this post to the tires section ?
I recently got a quote from the dealer to install new Goodyears on my car and they quoted $1600 and that included the alignment. I didn't think the $1100 for the Michelins was a bad price. I've yet to replace my tires, but will probably go with the Michelins.
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Old 11-25-2017, 02:59 PM   #6
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A few months ago i grabbed a set of Nitto Motivos for my 2LT. Have been a great set. Love'em. Their all season but are nice and quiet and have a nice grip. plus a 60,000 mile treadwear warranty. My goodyears were bald at about 22,000. No burnouts or hard driving.

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Old 11-25-2017, 03:46 PM   #7
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The Michelins are expensive, but they are amazing.

Out of those choices, I might go with the Hankooks, as that's the only brand I have experience with. I've read the DZ102 are not too safe in the wet. s.Drive are nice, but going on a decade old now.
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Old 11-25-2017, 06:47 PM   #8
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Ill probably buy the SUMITOMO HTR Z III's next spring, for my DD I cant see spending what the PS4's cost.
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Old 11-25-2017, 08:34 PM   #9
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The Goodyear OEMs have a treadwear rating of 500 so how are people
only getting 15,000 miles life out of them? The summer only tires have
a treadwear ratings closer to 300 so does this mean the quieter summer
tires will last only 9,000 miles ??

Thanks for the advice
As I have learned Treadwear ratings have no real basis for the ratings. Essentially the number is up to the tire manufacturer's testing (not standardized). So GY's 300 might be the same as BFG's 200. I can tell you I had a pair of 220 treadwear Continental's on my BMW. They lasted about 20K. These GYs on my SS will be lucky to make it 15K.

You can't go wrong with Pilot's but they are pricey for sure.
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Old 11-25-2017, 09:10 PM   #10
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These OEM tires are noisy. I had a dealer loaner 2018 v6 Camaro and was way quieter and smoother ride, I forgot to look but what's on them?
I'm at 10k on my OEMs and they look good, I bet I get 15k out of them but looking forward to something else.
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Old 11-25-2017, 09:16 PM   #11
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Ill probably buy the SUMITOMO HTR Z III's next spring, for my DD I cant see spending what the PS4's cost.
The Sumitomos are only $470.60 for a set of 4 not including tax/delivery/mounting.
About 1/3 the price of the Michelins. IMO the Michelins and Goodyears are over priced.
I quoted the Hankook price because I used them in the past and was very happy.

Michelin partnered with Hankook many years back to make tires and I was
told Hankooks are using very similar rubber formulations and tech as Michelin.
The Hankook S1 Noble2 was the quietest Ultra High Performance All-Season tire
I've ever had.
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Old 11-25-2017, 09:39 PM   #12
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The Hankook S1 Noble2 was the quietest Ultra High Performance All-Season tire
I've ever had.
I run MPSS on my 2012 v8 genesis sedan and it corners aptly for a 4300 lb land barge. I test drove a ‘15 Genesis with S1 noble2’s and it couldn’t take a corner for squat. Hyundai put these tires on 2015 Genesis sedans and a year later recalled them all and replaced them with, yep you guessed it, Michelins. You’ll get what you pay for.

We put Bridgestone Turanza Serenety Plus on my wife's Solara vert and she loves them. They're quiet, and have very good wet and dry grip. These aren't max-perf-summer tires, but should be fine for the v6 under DD use. Kumhos and Perellis we had on the her car before these didn't last for snot and had equal or higher UTOG ratings.

UTOG ratings are not standardized across brands, so a 350 on a Michelin might equate to a 500 on a Goodyear. IMO if you use UTOG ratings to compare within a brand, you won't be disappointed.

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Old 11-25-2017, 10:43 PM   #13
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I must say I am not a fan of the 245/40ZR20 OEM Goodyear Eagle F1 RunFlats.

I find they give a noisy ride with plenty hum that I don't care for. I'm fine
keeping a can of fix-a-flat in my trunk and dumping the RunFlats when
they wear out.

I always bought Hankook S1 Noble2 for my previous car and liked
how grippy and quiet they were. I live in Florida so I can run summer
tires all year. Hankook also makes a V12 EVO2 Summer tire which
may be even quieter than the All Weather Noble2.

Does anyone have any advice for the "best grip and quiet" option at a
decent price? On TireRack I am seeing:

SUMITOMO HTR Z III
DUNLOP DIREZZA DZ102
HANKOOK VENTUS V12 EVO2
YOKOHAMA S.DRIVE
KUMHO ECSTA PS91

Of one more thing..
The Goodyear OEMs have a treadwear rating of 500 so how are people
only getting 15,000 miles life out of them? The summer only tires have
a treadwear ratings closer to 300 so does this mean the quieter summer
tires will last only 9,000 miles ??

Thanks for the advice
Think about this...what good will fix-a-flat do if you hit something and it tears a rip in the tire rather than a small hole, or if you get a blowout? In my book you are taking a big chance there. Maybe look for quieter run flats. I’ve given this some thought before because I wanted more comfort in my tires. I started looking at non-run flats, but then I came to my senses concerning the greater hazard. So I’ve been eying some Bridgestone driveguards, which are supposed to be the most comfortable run flats out there.
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Old 11-26-2017, 04:56 AM   #14
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I put the General G-Max AS-05's on my 17 SS and way quieter and a lot more enjoyable to drive the run on flats that came with the car, I replaced the stock tires at 1600 miles.
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