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Old 01-31-2015, 08:27 PM   #57
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Old 02-01-2015, 11:02 AM   #58
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GT350 to GT350R carries same engine - you don't think GM can / will do the same ZL1 to Z/28?
Not the same thing. Two different models unless they decided to make the track focused z/28 a blower car like the z06. The 350r is just a better version of the 350. I wouldn't be surprised to see gm drop either the z/28 or zl1 name and make the car one model.
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Old 02-01-2015, 11:07 AM   #59
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Not the same thing. Two different models unless they decided to make the track focused z/28 a blower car like the z06. The 350r is just a better version of the 350. I wouldn't be surprised to see gm drop either the z/28 or zl1 name and make the car one model.
Based on no 3rd motor at this time, I'd say that's a good possibility. If they want to make a track car, then would think they would drop the ZL1 and follow Z06 with the boosted LT4 track tuned Camaro.
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Old 02-01-2015, 11:59 AM   #60
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2017 will be Camaro's 50th Anniversary....might be a good time for the 6thGen Z/28 to reappear with a unique engine.....or other surprises that we won't see for 2016...
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Old 02-01-2015, 01:01 PM   #61
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2017 will be Camaro's 50th Anniversary....might be a good time for the 6thGen Z/28 to reappear with a unique engine.....or other surprises that we won't see for 2016...
I initially thought GM would debut the 6th Gen as a 2017 model to celebrate the anniversary, but obviously that won't happen. Makes me wonder if the first year will have a short production run so they can focus on MY 17.
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Old 02-01-2015, 02:27 PM   #62
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I initially thought GM would debut the 6th Gen as a 2017 model to celebrate the anniversary, but obviously that won't happen. Makes me wonder if the first year will have a short production run so they can focus on MY 17.
It's already a short production simply by what is very likely a late 15 early 16 launch. Also keep in mind if it is early like the 2010 Camaro was GM could simply call it a 2017 model and be done with it.
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Old 02-01-2015, 03:10 PM   #63
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It's already a short production simply by what is very likely a late 15 early 16 launch. Also keep in mind if it is early like the 2010 Camaro was GM could simply call it a 2017 model and be done with it.
They can legally call a car 2017 model on 1/2/16. As far as I have seen there has been no indication there will not be a 2016 Camaro.
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Old 02-10-2015, 09:40 AM   #64
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New Caddys are in...

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Cadillac Prices 2016 ATS-V Sedan at $61,460, Coupe at $63,660
Cadillac Opens Ordering for 2016 ATS-V
Dual-purpose performance luxury compact designed for the track, touring
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DETROIT – Cadillac dealers have begun accepting orders for the 2016 ATS-V – the brand’s inaugural luxury compact performance car starting production this spring.

Available in sedan and coupe forms, the twin-turbocharged ATS-V offers a dual-purpose luxury performance experience: a car with true track capability straight from the factory with sophisticated road manners.

Powered by the segment’s highest-output six-cylinder engine – the Cadillac Twin Turbo rated at 455 horsepower (339 kW) and 445 lb-ft of torque (603 Nm) – the ATS-V achieves 0-60 performance in 3.9 seconds and a top speed of 189 mph. The Cadillac Twin Turbo engine is backed by a six-speed manual – with Active Rev Match, no-lift shifting and launch control – or a paddle-shift eight-speed automatic transmission featuring launch control and Performance Algorithm Shift.

“The V-Series is the ultimate expression of Cadillac’s re-ignited product substance and the passion at the core of our brand,” said Johan de Nysschen, Cadillac president.

“The ATS-V expands the V-Series lineup, bringing a new kind of performance character to Cadillac. Lightweight, agile and potent, the ATS-V will make an ideal pairing with the larger and even more powerful all-new 2016 CTS-V midsize sedan, which arrives later this summer,” he said.

In the U.S., the 2016 ATS-V sedan carries a starting price of $61,460 and the ATS-V coupe is priced from $63,660. Consumers can order ATS-Vs now through dealers and begin specifying their own ATS-V online at www.cadillac.com in April.

Additional performance technologies built into the ATS-V include:
  • Brembo high-performance brake system developed for track-day performance capability straight from the factory
  • Third-generation Magnetic Ride Control, which delivers 40 percent faster damping response
  • Integrated chassis controls that provide balanced performance for touring and the track, including class-exclusive Performance Traction Management
  • Tri-compound tires offering excellent grip with extended tire wear
  • Available downforce-generating track aerodynamics package
  • Standard carbon fiber hood

An available Performance Data Recorder allows drivers to record high-definition video, with data overlays, of their driving experiences on and off the track, enabling sharing on social media.

More than just a desirable road car, the ATS-V will also become Cadillac’s entrant into the world of motorsports. Even before the new car hits the showroom, Cadillac Racing’s new ATS-V.R racecar will begin the Pirelli World Challenge GT 2015 season March 7-8 at the Circuit of the Americas in Austin, Texas. Cadillac Racing is the three-time defending manufacturer’s and driver’s champion in the series, which features legendary marques such as Audi, Ferrari and Porsche.

The ATS-V will be assembled at the Lansing Grand River assembly plant in Michigan.
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sweet! I had read in a few spots that CTS-V would start in the 80's, so this is very nice.

Maybe I get me a CTS-V...

oh crap, I just re-read it...this if for ATS-V.

wow...63K.
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Old 02-10-2015, 09:56 AM   #66
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sweet! I had read in a few spots that CTS-V would start in the 80's, so this is very nice.

Maybe I get me a CTS-V...

oh crap, I just re-read it...this if for ATS-V.

wow...63K.
80's sounds about right.
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Old 02-10-2015, 10:13 AM   #67
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80's sounds about right.
Yeah, that's just too much for me, I'm planning on maxing out at around 65K for a 6th Gen ZL1, if they come out with one.

a 63K CTS-V would have been really tempting. The last time I checked prior to a few minutes ago on a CTS-V, they were around 65K, but checking their site just now, up to 71K, and 85K 2016 actually makes choosing easier.

The CTS-V is incredible and looks great, but I'd rather have the Camaro look.
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Old 02-10-2015, 10:26 AM   #68
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$63k was around where the Sigma-II CTS-V was. It's moved waaaaay upmarket since then.
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Old 02-10-2015, 10:35 AM   #69
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$63k was around where the Sigma-II CTS-V was. It's moved waaaaay upmarket since then.
I was surprised, but it has been a couple years since I really checked. Still, a 15% increase for the new one...and apparently this hike is soley to persuade the M and AMG folks to buy a Cadi...

hope it works.

You mean Sigma I right?
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No. 2nd gen CTS was on Sigma-II.
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