[Jeb114]

They cannot lower the price of a future Z/28 until all the new ones out there are long gone, they would collapse the value of residual sales. To much unsold steel out there to take that chance. According to cars.com there are still around 30,000 unsold Camaro's out there and sales for the 2015 are flat. I think that's why they are not talking about any upgraded cars, got to sell the ones they got!!!!

[citizennick]

I hope they don't wait a few model years before they release the 1LE, as @toehead93 mentioned, theres still quite a bit that could be done to the 6th gen to make it more track-focused. that said, I think they did a great job with the SS to make it capable on the track, such as the radiators and MRC. I want to order an SS when that opens up but I also want to wait and see what they offer next year. UGH, this is tough!

[IOMike]

The LT4 exists, so the Zl1 should come as a 2017. This high HP NA engine everyone wants doesn't, to my knowledge, so that will be a late 2017 or 2018 depending on how much work is done on it.

[Iroc_Z28]

Is it really necessary to wait to bring out a track pack type of option? The C7 had the z51 option right from the start in 2014 and the 6th gen mustang got the PP option in 2015

[citizennick]

Originally Posted by Iroc_Z28

Is it really necessary to wait to bring out a track pack type of option? The C7 had the z51 option right from the start in 2014 and the 6th gen mustang got the PP option in 2015

Thats why I expected some sort of package for the Camaro. Yeah, the SS comes optional with MRC, but I kind of expected something like the 1LE off the bat. Hell, the Mustang at least gets the Recaro's as an option their first year.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by LilAndyG23

I just don't see what the 1LE would consist of, other than just tweaking minor things, magnetic dampers are already available on any 6th gen and that was really the major game changer for the 1LE in the gen5.

The only 5th gen to get MR shocks was the ZL1. The 1LE uses different shocks from the regular SS but they are still conventional in design.

[Bosse'sBoss]

Originally Posted by citizennick

Thats why I expected some sort of package for the Camaro. Yeah, the SS comes optional with MRC, but I kind of expected something like the 1LE off the bat. Hell, the Mustang at least gets the Recaro's as an option their first year.

Completely agree with your comment.
Plus Maybe wider wheels and 285's tires, squared setup, Sport Swaybars & springs, something similar to the actual 1LE that will help crush the GT350.

[titanfan]

Originally Posted by Jeb114

They cannot lower the price of a future Z/28 until all the new ones out there are long gone, they would collapse the value of residual sales. To much unsold steel out there to take that chance. According to cars.com there are still around 30,000 unsold Camaro's out there and sales for the 2015 are flat. I think that's why they are not talking about any upgraded cars, got to sell the ones they got!!!!

GM doesn't have to worry about it, the dealers have that burden. GM has already made their money on whatever inventory is sitting on the dealer lot/showroom.

Personally, I think there were some lessons learned by GM with the 5thGen that will not be repeated in the 6thGen. A z/28 with a MSRP of $75K is history. IF, they bring the z/28 back in this next generation, I doubt it will mimic the formula used for the previous generation. That car, while well engineered and worthy of the praise it gets for its track prowess, was not as successful as GM probably thought it would be. They made the car so many on this site and others begged for, but the actual number of people willing to pay what they were asking for it was obviously much lower than anticipated.

The reality is, very few people buying a Camaro are hung up on how well the car handles in a track setting versus how it handles in the real world. This is why the 1LE option for the SS and the z/28 model are very low-volume sellers.

[Bhobbs]

GM didn't build a $75k Z/28 because they felt like it, that was the only way to build an LS7 powered Camaro. If they put the LS7 in a 1LE, it would have been slower around a track than the ZL1 but cost the same or more. They built it the way they did because they had to.

[IOMike]

It was a no excuse track car. Carbon ceramic brakes, multimatic suspension and the biggest and baddest NA v8 GM made.

The price was the result of the parts and lets not forget the R&D needed for such a low volume car. It had specific wheels, body and aero parts. They really did a good job on the car when they could have half assed it.

Not the car for me as it's too hardcore and too expensive.

[titanfan]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

GM didn't build a $75k Z/28 because they felt like it, that was the only way to build an LS7 powered Camaro. If they put the LS7 in a 1LE, it would have been slower around a track than the ZL1 but cost the same or more. They built it the way they did because they had to.

Exactly. But that IS where the MSRP landed and you would be hard pressed to convince me otherwise that the price-point had a big impact on sales. That was my point.

GM did build the car that so many on Camaro5 begged for. A normally-aspirated, low bells and whistles content, track focused, street-legal vehicle worthy of the z/28 heritage. They got exactly that. Unfortunately, once they got what they wanted, very few were willing to actually pay for it.

[Jeffro19]

Like the old saying goes gotta pay to play. The next Z28 will be much more attainable for most people.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by ztwentypoop

Exactly. But that IS where the MSRP landed and you would be hard pressed to convince me otherwise that the price-point had a big impact on sales. That was my point.

GM did build the car that so many on Camaro5 begged for. A normally-aspirated, low bells and whistles content, track focused, street-legal vehicle worthy of the z/28 heritage. They got exactly that. Unfortunately, once they got what they wanted, very few were willing to actually pay for it.

And anyone that wanted a cheapo Z/28 probably bought a 1LE instead. Its what halo models are supposed to do: sell some cars to some people, sell more cars to other people.

[Capricio]

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Like the old saying goes gotta pay to play. The next Z28 will be much more attainable for most people.

Agreed, but as Z28 gets scaled down, what's going to be the big differentiator from 1LE to Z28? A different engine? Z28 was reduced down to little more than a badge in the past, and as a max effort racer more recently. So it can fall anywere in between for Gen6.

Without a more powerful engine, as a consumer I really don't see the point of a Z28 over a 1LE, and a different engine would likely move the price up well over 60k if it costs anything approaching what it takes to produce an LS7. WIthout a different engine and a resulting significant price increase, I don't really see enough space between them for both.