[samurai]

Rendering of the frontend. Didn't touch the hood though.




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[camaro5]

Food for thought

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by Jay Traugott

Expect new headlights, grille and taillights. One of the biggest complaints some had with the latest Camaro is that it looked too similar to its immediate predecessor.

This refresh may change that.

Another positive change is that Chevrolet is reportedly eager to restructure the Camaro’s trim lines in an effort to cut prices somewhat.

Lastly, power. Yes, the 2019 Camaro will be more powerful, specifically the Camaro SS.

While the 2018 Mustang GT has a 460-hp V8, the 2018 Camaro SS has 455 hp.

Yes, 5 hp matters. The 2019 Camaro SS’s V8 could very well offer up 470 hp.

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2017/10/...amaro-7741439/

And this

Monday 09 October 2017, 11:42 AM by Santosh Nai

Inside the cabin, the new Camaro is all-set to get more comfort features and be more tech-laden like its sibling, the Cadillac ATS.

Reports claim that the biggest change that will be brought to this edition will be powertrain.

Although the car maker hasn’t confirmed it, rumours state that the current engines will be spruced-up to make significantly more power.

Plus, the new 10-speed automatic gearbox will be fitted as standard throughout the range.

Report suggest that the facelifted Chevrolet Camaro may be showcased at the 2018 Detroit Auto Show in January before getting launched later next year.

Stay tuned for more information.

https://www.cartrade.com/car-bike-ne...ge-135263.html

[Bhobbs]

GM doesn't increase the output of its performance V8 engines. It hasn't since the LS6 in the early 2000s. The Mustang has had an increase in power during its refresh but the Camaro hasn't. GM only increases power when they release a new engine.

[ChevyRules]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

GM doesn't increase the output of its performance V8 engines. It hasn't since the LS6 in the early 2000s. The Mustang has had an increase in power during its refresh but the Camaro hasn't. GM only increases power when they release a new engine.

It doesn't say the LT1 is getting a power bump, just the SS will sport more power. So it could be a LT2( sort of like the LS2 to LS3 bump in the C6 era). Though to debut it in the Camaro before 'Vette would be interesting though. To my knowledge, 'Vette's have always been the platform to launch the new performance V8's with Camaro following.

[gringo]

The LT1 doesn't need a bump in power to eclipse the Mustang. Once the Camaro gets the 10sp auto, that will be enough to out hustle the pony car and it won't need any special launch control tricks to do it either.

If they do give the LT1 a bump in power, it definitely won't be before the LT1 gets a power bump in the Corvette.

The LS2 to LS3 saw an 30 hp increase in the Corvette. I don't see that much of an increase happening on the Camaro unless they increase displacement. If they do anything, it'll probably be a small increase of about 10 hp to 465 hp just to edge out the 460 hp in the Mustang.

[IOMike]

Originally Posted by camaro5

Food for thought

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And this

The carbuzz article is full of errors. I'd put little to no faith in it's accuracy.

[camaro5]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

GM doesn't increase the output of its performance V8 engines. It hasn't since the LS6 in the early 2000s. The Mustang has had an increase in power during its refresh but the Camaro hasn't. GM only increases power when they release a new engine.

LT2 is coming. Remember LS1? Then LS2? Then LS3. History repeats, again.

Originally Posted by ChevyRules

It doesn't say the LT1 is getting a power bump, just the SS will sport more power. So it could be a LT2( sort of like the LS2 to LS3 bump in the C6 era). Though to debut it in the Camaro before 'Vette would be interesting though. To my knowledge, 'Vette's have always been the platform to launch the new performance V8's with Camaro following.

C7 is all done. New ZR1 is front-engine Corvette farewell.

Originally Posted by gringo

The LT1 doesn't need a bump in power to eclipse the Mustang. Once the Camaro gets the 10sp auto, that will be enough to out hustle the pony car and it won't need any special launch control tricks to do it either.

If they do give the LT1 a bump in power, it definitely won't be before the LT1 gets a power bump in the Corvette.

The LS2 to LS3 saw an 30 hp increase in the Corvette. I don't see that much of an increase happening on the Camaro unless they increase displacement. If they do anything, it'll probably be a small increase of about 10 hp to 465 hp just to edge out the 460 hp in the Mustang.

C7 (after new ZR1), is done. C8 is coming soon.

We'll know soon (hopefully Jan.) who is right.

Originally Posted by IOMike

The carbuzz article is full of errors. I'd put little to no faith in it's accuracy.

I don't put too much faith in these sources.

But most assumptions are reasonable, and have been from multiple other sources.

What exactly are the errors (as in opposing credible evidence) and their source? Include hyperlinks if they exist.

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[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by ChevyRules

It doesn't say the LT1 is getting a power bump, just the SS will sport more power. So it could be a LT2( sort of like the LS2 to LS3 bump in the C6 era). Though to debut it in the Camaro before 'Vette would be interesting though. To my knowledge, 'Vette's have always been the platform to launch the new performance V8's with Camaro following.

They may have a new engine but I don't see what they could change. With every new engine, they increased displacement. The LTx is already at 6.2 liters.

If they do change it, they better get a 30-40 hp increase out of the new engine.

[ChefBorOzzy]

I'm pretty sure GM stated that they will no longer do big changes mid gen and will focus on the next gen car.

Think about it, the LT1 came out in 2014. Ford knew it was going to go into the Camaro and it's taking them until 2018MY Mustang to about match the power in Camaro. What reason is there for Chevy to improve SS horsepower this gen? They're really not behind.

I say focus on doing the best you can for the release of the new gen and make sure it can ride out 5-6 years. 7th gen Mustang and Camaro will be here in no time.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

I'm pretty sure GM stated that they will no longer do big changes mid gen and will focus on the next gen car.

Think about it, the LT1 came out in 2014. Ford knew it was going to go into the Camaro and it's taking them until 2018MY Mustang to about match the power in Camaro. What reason is there for Chevy to improve SS horsepower this gen? They're really not behind.

I say focus on doing the best you can for the release of the new gen and make sure it can ride out 5-6 years. 7th gen Mustang and Camaro will be here in no time.

Because big horsepower numbers matter. Look at the excitement over the Hellcat and Demon.

[ChefBorOzzy]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Because big horsepower numbers matter. Look at the excitement over the Hellcat and Demon.

And then makes the next gen look underwhelming.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

And then makes the next gen look underwhelming.

Or, it just sets up the next generation for an even bigger deal. GM has yet to beat the GT500 in power, not to mention the Hellcat, Demon and future GT500.

[samurai]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Or, it just sets up the next generation for an even bigger deal. GM has yet to beat the GT500 in power, not to mention the Hellcat, Demon and future GT500.

They got the best track car of all pony cars with the ZL1 1LE, who cares about plain horsepower
Z/28 will be a monster

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by samurai

They got the best track car of all pony cars with the ZL1 1LE, who cares about plain horsepower
Z/28 will be a monster

A lot of people.