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NASTY99Z28 · 10-20-2012, 09:21 PM

So after so much controversy over the ZL1 not having a forged engine has anyone blown up a motor yet?

blackzl1az · 10-21-2012, 05:37 AM

Nope

SC2150 · 10-21-2012, 07:27 AM

None we have seen.

Nailn it · 10-21-2012, 07:59 AM

These same engines have been in the Cadillacs for years. My tuner told me they go north off 800 rwp on stock bottom ends often. No problems. Very solid engines with unbelievable potential. IMO the only danger would be a bad tune.

NASTY99Z28 · 10-21-2012, 01:07 PM

Yeah I know the engine has been around in the caddy's I was just curious how it's doing so far the ZL1 since the cars arch rival has already blown up 2 of there FORGED engines....

The IOM Ninja · 10-21-2012, 01:17 PM

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Yeah I know the engine has been around in the caddy's I was just curious how it's doing so far the ZL1 since the cars arch rival has already blown up 2 of there FORGED engines....

They were also trying to see how far they could go with the new 5.8. It's not like the engines weren't being pushed to the limits. Also the weak link of the 5.8 is the rods, that would have been why it blew up (the part of the engine that ISN'T forged).

Lethal was trying to push the limits to find out where you can safely take these cars. The other blown one is because some smarty-pants , who probably should have been aborted, modded his car and was beating on it like a moron.

Taser Deployed · 10-21-2012, 01:20 PM

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They were also trying to see how far they could go with the new 5.8. It's not like the engines weren't being pushed to the limits. Also the weak link of the 5.8 is the rods, that would have been why it blew up (the part of the engine that ISN'T forged).

Lethal was trying to push the limits to find out where you can safely take these cars. The other blown one is because some smarty-pants, who probably should have been aborted, modded his car and was beating on it like a moron.

What are the limits on the 5.8?

The IOM Ninja · 10-21-2012, 01:40 PM

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What are the limits on the 5.8?

I looked again and it turns out that lethal didn't technically blowup the engine. Around 800RWHP (Reliably) then you would probably need new rods...

NASTY99Z28 · 10-21-2012, 01:41 PM

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They were also trying to see how far they could go with the new 5.8. It's not like the engines weren't being pushed to the limits. Also the weak link of the 5.8 is the rods, that would have been why it blew up (the part of the engine that ISN'T forged).

Lethal was trying to push the limits to find out where you can safely take these cars. The other blown one is because some smarty-pants, who probably should have been aborted, modded his car and was beating on it like a moron.

1. I'll give it to evolution (not lethal) that they pushed the car pretty hard to find it's limits but it popped doing what everyone said it would be safe doing then they all fell back on the old "trying to find limits excuse". If livernois would have blown up the car they had everyone would be all over it for not being forged.

2. So with your mindset the engines are fine as long as you don't mod them and don't drive them hard? Fact is these cars are going to be pushed not only power wise but also in longevity and personally I think the "over rev" feature will be the biggest problem for the 5.8.

NASTY99Z28 · 10-21-2012, 01:44 PM

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I looked again and it turns out that lethal didn't technically blowup the engine. Around 800RWHP (Reliably) then you would probably need new rods...

That's the crazy part both engines are roughly the same when it comes to there ability to handle power(safely)assuming a good time except the gt500 is "fully" forged and the LSA isn't just doesn't make sense.

The IOM Ninja · 10-21-2012, 01:54 PM

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1. I'll give it to evolution (not lethal) that they pushed the car pretty hard to find it's limits but it popped doing what everyone said it would be safe doing then they all fell back on the old "trying to find limits excuse". If livernois would have blown up the car they had everyone would be all over it for not being forged.

2. So with your mindset the engines are fine as long as you don't mod them and don't drive them hard? Fact is these cars are going to be pushed not only power wise but also in longevity and personally I think the "over rev" feature will be the biggest problem for the 5.8.

No the problem is all of the blown engines I have seen were because people were taking them to 7200 RPM or Higher (places that the engine not safe for the engine to go to) 7000 RPM is a limited RPM for a reason.

That's what I love about Camaro5 people love to twist things on this site. I said "Beating on it like a moron" translation for you "TREATING THE CAR LIKE SHIT, LITERALLY BEATING ON THE CAR, NOT JUST DRIVING IT HARD, PRETENDING IT IS A CHEATING WIFE AND BEATING UNTIL IT BLOWS UP"

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...his-motor.html

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...22#post9256222

sycraft · 10-21-2012, 01:56 PM

Lingenfelter blew one early in development

The IOM Ninja · 10-21-2012, 02:00 PM

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That's the crazy part both engines are roughly the same when it comes to there ability to handle power(safely)assuming a good time except the gt500 is "fully" forged and the LSA isn't just doesn't make sense.

THE GT500 ISN'T FULLY FORGED, anyone with a brain knows that the rods are powder forged, the one major weak link of the engine….

Taser Deployed · 10-21-2012, 02:21 PM

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THE GT500 ISN'T FULLY FORGED, anyone with a brain knows that the rods are powder forged, the one major weak link of the engine….

Same as the LSA if I'm not mistaken.

10-20-2012, 09:21 PM	#1
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NASTY99Z28 Drives: 99z28 with bolt-ons and a mwc fab 9 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 1,277	Yeah I know the engine has been around in the caddy's I was just curious how it's doing so far the ZL1 since the cars arch rival has already blown up 2 of there FORGED engines.... __________________ I like my woman like my milk shakes, THICK!!!!

10-21-2012, 01:56 PM	#12
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10-21-2012, 05:37 AM	#2
blackzl1az Drives: Black ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Arizona Posts: 19	Nope

10-21-2012, 07:27 AM	#3
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	None we have seen.

10-21-2012, 07:59 AM	#4
Nailn it Drives: 2013 ZL1 Ashen Gray / Manual Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 208	These same engines have been in the Cadillacs for years. My tuner told me they go north off 800 rwp on stock bottom ends often. No problems. Very solid engines with unbelievable potential. IMO the only danger would be a bad tune.