[formoutofchaos]

so a ZR1 7:19 and Z06 7:22 are much faster , and the M4 GTS is right there? is that impressive with such power? I wonder what the new 1le would do would love to see that! probably better than M4 GTS

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by John Galtman

Yeah, the time is very impressive though. Faster than the r8 .. Cool.
But I do care about the straigh line...Cause often drive on the autobahns. 150 mph here is nothin'... Maybe this was some track version with stage 1-2... aero or smth..

You're the Autobahn expert so could you please answer for us whats better: a car that is stable at 180 mph or one that is unstable at 200?

I know what I'd rather have.

Originally Posted by Nicul15

did anyone notice the driver was a guy from the engineering team?

that guys got balls

They're always part of the engineering team. They go to the 'Ring for research & development, and to get the most useful feedback about what the car is doing you pretty much need to have an engineer in the drivers seat.

[90503]

The only changes made to the ZL1 were the installation of data acquisition equipment, a roll hoop and Sparco racing seats with six-point harnesses. Otherwise, the car was production stock and included the following:
6.2-liter supercharged LT4 V-8 making 650 horsepower and 650 lb-ft of torque
All-new 10R90 10-speed automatic transmission (set to Track mode to enable Performance Algorithm Shift calibration, providing optimal gear selection without the need to manually select gears)
FE4 Suspension with Magnetic Ride Control
Performance Traction Management
Forged 20-inch wheels with Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3 tires
Brembo brakes with front 15.4-inch rotors and six-piston calipers and rear 14.4-inch rotors and four-piston calipers
Lift-reducing front fascia elements with cooling ducts and Chevrolet “flowtie”
Full underbody shielding
ZL1-specific rear spoiler and diffuser
11 heat exchangers

Still in awe over the video....I highlighted some items I don't recall as being mentioned as stock on the ZL-1 in earlier threads....Maybe they were...

It just amazed me how well the car seemed to handle and not spin around as it carried speed in the turns....

As far as the trans goes, I suppose one could theoretically duplicate the shifting with the paddles....???....Impressive how well that downshifted, revved, etc. all by itself....I think a manual 6thGen Z/28 has it's work cut out to better that lap....

P.S. I think the windshield had bug-splatter on it....not rain-drops...

[90503]

Discussion here as well...
http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470977

[URBAN LEGEND]

Ring times are marketing exercises. It's all bar talk for the fan boys. The track is s tuning tool.

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Nice numbers from the GM team, that is fast.

[John Galtman]

Originally Posted by formoutofchaos

so a ZR1 7:19 and Z06 7:22 are much faster , and the M4 GTS is right there? is that impressive with such power? I wonder what the new 1le would do would love to see that! probably better than M4 GTS

I don't believe that the m4 gts(even though its a pure track car) is faster than this by almost 2 seconds. If a few weeks ago the m4 gts was slightly faster than the simple 1le, on laguna seca(there was not even a one sec difference), then smth is wrong here. BMW's time(on nurb...) must be a bs. Or it was not stock

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by 90503

All-new 10R90 10-speed automatic transmission (set to Track mode to enable Performance Algorithm Shift calibration, providing optimal gear selection without the need to manually select gears)

Performance Traction Management

Full underbody shielding

All of the trans data, minus it being called a 10R90 over a 10L90 was mentioned or listed. I'd seen the 10R90 data sometime back, but wasn't able to stat that I'd seen it -- because, I wasn't supposed to know.

PTM was also listed (and it's also in the 1LE, at least the 1SS ones)

Full under body shielding - I don't know if called out explicitly, but it's not unexpected.

[John Galtman]

From another site:
"who gives a damn when it looks 2 cartoonish"

[JAZ]

Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

I saw an article claiming that the GT500 will have a FPC Voodoo with either super or turbo charging. Here's the link:

http://www.cheatsheet.com/automobile...tml/?a=viewall

The article claims this as one of the five things we "know" about the new GT500. Is there any credibility to the CPC claim on M6G? The two sources seem to contradict each other.

The FPC will not put out the low end torque that the ZL1 can deliver. No one on M6G wants to see FI on the 5.2 FPC.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by John Galtman

From another site:
"who gives a damn when it looks 2 cartoonish"

Damn those Bugatti people!!



I really believe there is a second video of the Ring time, with a passenger in the car. Of course it won't be released due to the passenger screaming like a small child in a horror movie. Plus, you couldn't really hear the A10 shifting with all the "... let me out, stop you fool, we are going to die!" comments.

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by John Galtman

From another site:
"who gives a damn when it looks 2 cartoonish"

So? I can find similar commentary about many cars... Here's just a sample"




http://forums.motortrend.com/70/8220...led/page7.html

"AVT hit the nail on the head with the Mustang comment though. The 05 Mustang and 06 Chargers looks a little cartoonish."


http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.p...9&postcount=25

"Unlike the current Corvette, which still looks cartoonish to me in person, the Mustang looks "the part"."


http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...mparison-test/

"Features editor David Zenlea has no qualms about taking a few whacks at the 1M's sacred-cow status: "It looks cartoonish, it leans heavily in turns … and except for journalists and a few lucky owners, the 1M is basically unobtainium. I like that they're going to build a bunch of the M2.""



Style = Subjective
Performance = Objective

[90503]

FWIW...I can't make out all the details in the video, but at the 7:50 mark, the dash data recorder thingy in the center looks like it shows a lap time of 7:38:11...lol....just sayin'....

[formoutofchaos]

Originally Posted by John Galtman

I don't believe that the m4 gts(even though its a pure track car) is faster than this by almost 2 seconds. If a few weeks ago the m4 gts was slightly faster than the simple 1le, on laguna seca(there was not even a one sec difference), then smth is wrong here. BMW's time(on nurb...) must be a bs. Or it was not stock

I just looked up lap times on the site , it's my understanding 1le might be faster because it can use all of its power ?