[hotlap]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Enjoy 2nd place behind the GT for the SS, and now 3rd place behind the HC and 500 for the ZL1

and so goes the cycle of life.

You have to admit... It took Ford a long time and they really had to work hard to catch up. The GT A10 with a specific combination of options is a drivers race and we won't see the GT500 until 2020.

Ford manages to build the fail into each. The PP1 that is just a continuation of the PP. A cup tire PP2 that isn't really a "track car". The original GT350 base that isn't really a "track car". Hopefully they won't cut corners on the GT500

We'll get over it.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

If there is a markup then it won't fit into my financial plan either. I will not pay any markups.


This is what I don't like. The only thing that makes sense as to why they would do this is to keep the costs down. That is probably also the reason it doesn't have the A10.

Why don't you like that? If your not interested in corner carving why would you get the track pack? That would be like forcing regular ZL1 buyers to get the 1LE package. From this quote from autoblog

"But if that's not enough, an optional Handling Package adds camber adjustment plates and a Gurney flap for the spoiler. Then there's the Carbon Fiber Track Pack that features 20-inch carbon fiber wheels, a more aggressive front splitter, and canards and a wing patterned after the GT4 Mustang race cars. On top of that, the package removes the rear seat and replaces the standard Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires for even sticker Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires. With this package, a Ford representative revealed the GT500 produces more downforce than the Ford GT supercar."

That tells me, the regular GT500 would be just as capable as the ZL1. The Handling pack will offer a bit of the inbetween and teh carbon fiber pack would be for the people that want to go all out much like the ZLE. I don't see how that is a bad thing

as far as the "base" car, looks to be pretty much fully equipped with the 12"LCD screen, Sync3, engine oil, trans, and diff coolers, magneride.

EDIT: now the leaked brochure makes no mention of the "Handling Pack" so maybe its either just the regular GT500 and the Carbon track pack.

Originally Posted by hotlap

and so goes the cycle of life.

You have to admit... It took Ford a long time and they really had to work hard to catch up. The GT A10 with a specific combination of options is a drivers race and we won't see the GT500 until 2020.

Ford manages to build the fail into each. The PP1 that is just a continuation of the PP. A cup tire PP2 that isn't really a "track car". The original GT350 base that isn't really a "track car". Hopefully they won't cut corners on the GT500

We'll get over it.

Well the little* in the video says available Fall 2019, so we will see when they actually start to trickle in

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by hotlap

and so goes the cycle of life.

You have to admit... It took Ford a long time and they really had to work hard to catch up. The GT A10 with a specific combination of options is a drivers race and we won't see the GT500 until 2020.

Ford manages to build the fail into each. The PP1 that is just a continuation of the PP. A cup tire PP2 that isn't really a "track car". The original GT350 base that isn't really a "track car". Hopefully they won't cut corners on the GT500

We'll get over it.

Yes it did take Ford too long to respond for whatever reason. Now lets see how Chevy will counter with a refresh or 7th Gen, the bar keeps getting raised.

[Revalot]

Auto revealing today on the GT500 no manual transmission, rotor dial for gear selection, 700 hp and over they say, no hard #, It looks great, but I cant see it in the league of the ZL1 1le and we know how Ford's get marked up on $. But to all interested good luck.
Need fo speed helicopter drop off really ? Give us hard #, engine, exact hp, rpm, 1/4, top speed. I test drove a ZL1 1LE Saturday with 157 miles this past weekend after summer I'm on the hunt.

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by Revalot

Auto revealing today on the GT500 no manual transmission, rotor dial for gear selection, 700 hp and over they say, no hard #, It looks great, but I cant see it in the league of the ZL1 1le and we know how Ford's get marked up on $. But to all interested good luck.
Need fo speed helicopter drop off really ? Give us hard #, engine, exact hp, rpm, 1/4, top speed. I test drove a ZL1 1LE Saturday with 157 miles this past weekend after summer I'm on the hunt.

https://www.cjponyparts.com/resource...0-shelby-gt500

[mcsoul]

Best thing about the GT500 will if it brings down the price of The Red Eye.

[Fatty1707]

I think it's a nice looking car, and I'm sure it performs just as good but I like the Camaro look a little better. I'll be keeping my Zl1 for sure.

[Emoto]

Just another reason for a hotter Camaro to come out!

[Grumpy1]

Like it so far.............

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Why don't you like that? If your not interested in corner carving why would you get the track pack? That would be like forcing regular ZL1 buyers to get the 1LE package. From this quote from autoblog

"But if that's not enough, an optional Handling Package adds camber adjustment plates and a Gurney flap for the spoiler. Then there's the Carbon Fiber Track Pack that features 20-inch carbon fiber wheels, a more aggressive front splitter, and canards and a wing patterned after the GT4 Mustang race cars. On top of that, the package removes the rear seat and replaces the standard Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires for even sticker Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires. With this package, a Ford representative revealed the GT500 produces more downforce than the Ford GT supercar."

That tells me, the regular GT500 would be just as capable as the ZL1. The Handling pack will offer a bit of the inbetween and teh carbon fiber pack would be for the people that want to go all out much like the ZLE. I don't see how that is a bad thing

as far as the "base" car, looks to be pretty much fully equipped with the 12"LCD screen, Sync3, engine oil, trans, and diff coolers, magneride.

EDIT: now the leaked brochure makes no mention of the "Handling Pack" so maybe its either just the regular GT500 and the Carbon track pack.





Well the little* in the video says available Fall 2019, so we will see when they actually start to trickle in

I don't like it because it isn't an addition...it's a sacrifice. So likely, once you add on the track package, you'll get an alert saying something along the lines of "such and such option removed with addition of Track Package". With the ZL1 1LE, you get all the bells and whistles that come on the standard ZL1 minus the A10 and sunroof for explained reasons. But everything else is there. With the Hellcat you get a fully optioned vehicle without having to lose this or that when you add this or that. Ford won't do that tho. And that i what I don't like. If I buy one, I want all the options.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by mcsoul

Best thing about the GT500 will if it brings down the price of The Red Eye.

It won't drop the price of the Redeye because it'll likely BE the price of a Redeye. What will happen tho is that those who refuse to pay markups will most assuredly flock to the Redeye or Hellcat or ZL1 as an alternative. So if anything the markups might give the competition a small boost in sales.

[rfopt]

I think people are going to be very impressed with the overall performance of the GT500 when the test results start coming in.

Ford's press release says, "Next-gen active MagneRide suspension". Is this the new generation 4 Magneride that coming out very soon? The press release also says the GT500 will have the highest lateral acceleration ever on a Mustang. So maybe this car will at least match the ZL1 1LE going through turns on a track.

[Bhobbs]

While the ZL1 might hold an edge on a track, this is just another demonstration of how GM is holding the Camaro down. It’s pretty bad when even the top GM car is beat out by lesser cars from other brands.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Emoto

Just another reason for a hotter Camaro to come out!

Literally zero chance of that happening.