Shno's House of Z

[Zslash28]

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2016-...-2015/#image-6

[2cnd chance]

Pretty impressive! How much???

I think we'll see a delay for the 6Gen due to unanticipated Ford showing.

[Bhobbs]

They better not wait too long. The GT500 might be revealed this time next year.

[2cnd chance]

It very well could be a year

[BaylorCamaro]

I highly doubt it is going to be another year, that would be ridiculous especially since it's supposed to be a 2016 model.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

It very well could be a year

Sorry, I deleted my post. I was mixing up model year and calendar year. C7 spy shots I could find were mid 2012 and it was revealed January 2013. The 6th gen shots were in August so the reveal might be at Chicago. We know one thing for sure, it won't be Detroit.

[Scarrzz]

It looks pretty cool from the front - for a girl car.

[tramtwo]

Originally Posted by Scarrzz

It looks pretty cool from the front - for a girl car.

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Well it's patently clear, based on the stupendous display of power and prestige put forth by Ford at NAIAS, that GM loyalists have only one alternative: plan a mass exodus to Honduras or some such place, join hands, and drink a gallon of "Jim Jones koolaid". [s/c]

GM brought forth steak, and Ford brought some low-volume sizzle, and all is WRONG with the world. With the STRONG likelihood of MUCH more to follow. And folks are falling on their swords?

"Magic math", a 50th Anniversary present, and a Super-6 pick-em-up will not move the profit or market share meters very far but, hey, they have some fresh "halos" to shine under the harsh Cobo lighting.

Keep the Silvo handy.

[JusticePete]

The 6th Gen shows in NY ala Z/28 or Camaro5FEST VI becomes a MAJOR AUTOMOTIVE EVENT for the PRESS!

[tramtwo]

that is an interesting thought

[2cnd chance]

Surprised at the #001 CTS-V $170K auction price.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Surprised at the #001 CTS-V $170K auction price.

Surprised that High or that Low?



Ford did nice stuff at the show. Nothing spectacular and nothing you can run out and buy anytime soon.

GT350 was already announced as LATE this year, not later this year. And it wasn't announced that I saw that the R launched at the same time.

I think the GT said LATE 2016. So that is about as real as the Bolt and Avinir. And that my friends is a fact. There isn't a spy shot yet of this car. We already have a spy shot of the mid engine Corvette MULE driving around. And by the way, the drones with Cameras really have to be pissing off the OEMs at their proving grounds lately.

As for the Raptor? Even that is a 2017. So for crying out loud they are all late this year or well into next.

As for the GT350R? Looks great on paper. Not sure why they went with CF wheels instead of brakes. Takes less development time? Quick response to the Z/28 when they realized that the GT350 wouldn't be enough? Keep in mind it takes nearly 2 years to get things into production with proper development and testing on a major component or subsystem. Faster if you are focused. So Ford was working on the GT350 when the Z/28 was still spy shots and rumors. And they've had only a few months to concoct something close.

Nice engine, Flat crank though doesn't do much for me. Maybe it should. It's a 500 hp engine (Z/28 has a high revving LS7), lighter than the Z/28 by a few hundred pounds (Z/28 also reduced weight just like the R) likely when all is said and done. Missing GM's chassis tuning which is really world class these days. So I'll call the GT350R a wash with the Z/28 only offsetting the weight for the CC brakes on the Chevy. So this is likely Ford's best hope to catch the Z/28, not surpass it.

As for the Gen 6? Well if I get my wish GM will do a special LTx engine at 500 plus hp (only a 10% improvement from the LT1 required for that). It will have a better architecture and chassis than Zeta (don't tell that to anyone at SSForums.com they hate me for that), lower weight by a bit and even better handling. The only question is does the Z/28 launch with the V6 and SS or is it delayed. Ford did not frighten me other than I am shocked that this forum is not ablaze with love of the blue paint

So we shall see, but Ford from my perspective is chasing here not leading. When you have a 1LE beating an all new Mustang GT with the decider being a cooler new interior for the Mustang and a bit newer styling, I sure don't expect that Ford can turn the R into a Z/28 beater.

[Bhobbs]

Not sure why you are blowing off the GT350 and R due to them being a ways off from production when GM hasn't even shown us the base 6th gen, let alone the hi po versions. So, yeah, the GT350s are a ways out but at least they know what they are.

As for the Raptor? Yeah, its a 2017 but it's coming. The ZR2? Just a concept and probably will stay that way.

GT? It's on the way. Mid engine Corvette? May or may not be real. That mule may or may not have been mid engine and may or may not even be a Corvette. Cadillac had a mid engine concept more recently than any mid engine Corvette.

Also, the GT350R has CCBs on at least the front. The wheels save 50+ lbs of unsprung weight. You should know what that does for the car.