You need a catch can.

nick_casper · 08-16-2017, 11:42 AM

I put on 2500 miles without a catch can and as you can see, a lot of oil gets in. The good news is none made it past the intercoolers and my valves and intake ports are perfectly clean. Now I'm shopping for a catch can.

Atomic Ed · 08-16-2017, 02:44 PM

A good reminder for us PD owners. A mucked up set of intercoolers would not be a welcomed condition. Not to mention the other issues with blow by.

Elite Engineering · 08-17-2017, 10:32 AM

And we have a system designed just for the LT4 engines that addresses all of this. The intake valve coking is also happening. The splashes on the cover don't show enough. Look down into the webbing and see how much is there already:

And as you can see with this brick at 14k miles from a Maggie PD it does not take long to bake on a "varnish" that not only insulates and reduces heat transfer, but also restricts flow through over time:

Nick, let us know and we will give you a system at discount if you track and document the results. We trap 95% plus of the oil and other compounds, most other brands only come in around 15-30% max. So the right system is critical on these new GDI engines.

LS valve at 142,000 miles with port injection:

LT valve at 5500 miles:

Burly · 08-17-2017, 11:02 AM

And empty it often. Got a little lazy and didn't check for almost 3000 miles and was nearly full. I am sure our humid summer weather played role but I was surprised how much was in there.

nick_casper · 08-17-2017, 11:44 AM

I already ordered mine. I did some searches and did not find a unit that fits with the Whipple since the new coolant fill tank is where the Mishimoto mounts. If you have a direct fit unit I would have jumped on it had I known. Phastek is a great source for our cars but I only saw the Mishimoto on their site.

shinysun · 08-17-2017, 08:52 PM

I have a catch can , but the situation is the similar to you.

If Elite Catch can has the better performance, I better change .

Elite Engineering · 08-18-2017, 01:16 PM

We have several different mounting solutions for the Gen6 PD blowers. For the LT4 we have a special adapter designed just for the LT4.

Also, there is no more effective separation system on the market period than our E2-X series. it traps 95-98% of all of the oil, water, acid, and other compounds from ingestion. Compare to most other cans that come in at 15-30% range. Anyone can test this to see firsthand. Simply start with both cans cleaned of all residue. Place the E2-X inline AFTER any other design and run for 2k miles. Drain both cans and document what each trapped (in most cases we catch more than the first can and that's AFTER the vapors have passed through the first one). Then, clean both of all residue so all is fair and accurate and install the E2-X first in line and the other design second. Almost nothing gets past the E2-X series, and it does it without flow restriction or other issues. All while maintaining a emissions compliant closed system. (NOT CA approved yet).

80sMetalDude · 08-19-2017, 09:14 AM

I installed a Whipple supercharger and the first one was bad I had to pull the heads. my Camaro only had about 1,800 miles on it at the time and I could not believe how much build-up there was already on the valves and pistons. You can look at my build thread for the pictures.

I would be interested in this as well because if there was that much build-up in my motor from just 1800 miles I can't imagine what another 10,000 would be like!!

Nick I think I'm going to pull my lid and take a look too.

I don't see any link to the product though.. while looking on my phone...

brettman · 08-19-2017, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80sMetalDude

I installed a Whipple supercharger and the first one was bad I had to pull the heads. my Camaro only had about 1,800 miles on it at the time and I could not believe how much build-up there was already on the valves and pistons. You can look at my build thread for the pictures.

I would be interested in this as well because if there was that much build-up in my motor from just 1800 miles I can't imagine what another 10,000 would be like!!

Nick I think I'm going to pull my lid and take a look too.

I don't see any link to the product though.. while looking on my phone...

Rob, You DON'T have a can???? Dude, put something there. Check my Whipple, catch can thread. It's a thought.

80sMetalDude · 08-19-2017, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brettman

Rob, You DON'T have a can???? Dude, put something there. Check my Whipple, catch can thread. It's a thought.

I blew it off because I thought we had a factory one....

nick_casper · 08-19-2017, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80sMetalDude

I blew it off because I thought we had a factory one....

Same. But obviously the factory one is not enough. I really hope the Mishimoto is good enough.

AxiomVerge · 08-19-2017, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elite Engineering

And we have a system designed just for the LT4 engines that addresses all of this. The intake valve coking is also happening. The splashes on the cover don't show enough. Look down into the webbing and see how much is there already:

And as you can see with this brick at 14k miles from a Maggie PD it does not take long to bake on a "varnish" that not only insulates and reduces heat transfer, but also restricts flow through over time:

Nick, let us know and we will give you a system at discount if you track and document the results. We trap 95% plus of the oil and other compounds, most other brands only come in around 15-30% max. So the right system is critical on these new GDI engines.

LS valve at 142,000 miles with port injection:

LT valve at 5500 miles:

Does your catch can work with a Maggie? Also can you provide a link?

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djfury05 · 08-19-2017, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80sMetalDude

I installed a Whipple supercharger and the first one was bad I had to pull the heads. my Camaro only had about 1,800 miles on it at the time and I could not believe how much build-up there was already on the valves and pistons. You can look at my build thread for the pictures.

I would be interested in this as well because if there was that much build-up in my motor from just 1800 miles I can't imagine what another 10,000 would be like!!

Nick I think I'm going to pull my lid and take a look too.

I don't see any link to the product though.. while looking on my phone...

Why did you pull the heads for a Whipple install?

80sMetalDude · 08-20-2017, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djfury05

Why did you pull the heads for a Whipple install?

Take a look at my build thread (most here know about that one that were interested in the Whipple or had one.) First one had an issue sent aluminum through the intake as the rotors became an aluminum lathe and we had to tear down the motor to do metal intrusion remediation. It was a mess.

I'm on Whipple #2... rock solid so far.... hitting strip first time today. We shall see.

Reference Link:
http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=492197

08-16-2017, 11:42 AM	#1
nick_casper Drives: 16 2SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Casper Posts: 288	You need a catch can. I put on 2500 miles without a catch can and as you can see, a lot of oil gets in. The good news is none made it past the intercoolers and my valves and intake ports are perfectly clean. Now I'm shopping for a catch can. Attached Images __________________ 2016 2SS, A8, Whipple 3.25 pulley, Mishimoto catch can, C7 Carbon fiber splitter and skirts, GM black brake and tail lights. PLX wideband O2/HP tuners. Apex VS-5RS in 19x11 and 19x12.

08-17-2017, 11:44 AM	#5
nick_casper Drives: 16 2SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Casper Posts: 288	I already ordered mine. I did some searches and did not find a unit that fits with the Whipple since the new coolant fill tank is where the Mishimoto mounts. If you have a direct fit unit I would have jumped on it had I known. Phastek is a great source for our cars but I only saw the Mishimoto on their site. __________________ 2016 2SS, A8, Whipple 3.25 pulley, Mishimoto catch can, C7 Carbon fiber splitter and skirts, GM black brake and tail lights. PLX wideband O2/HP tuners. Apex VS-5RS in 19x11 and 19x12.

08-16-2017, 02:44 PM	#2
Atomic Ed Drives: 2001 Audi TT, 2016 Camaro Join Date: May 2016 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 833	A good reminder for us PD owners. A mucked up set of intercoolers would not be a welcomed condition. Not to mention the other issues with blow by.

08-17-2017, 10:32 AM	#3
Elite Engineering Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Denver Posts: 1,382	And we have a system designed just for the LT4 engines that addresses all of this. The intake valve coking is also happening. The splashes on the cover don't show enough. Look down into the webbing and see how much is there already: And as you can see with this brick at 14k miles from a Maggie PD it does not take long to bake on a "varnish" that not only insulates and reduces heat transfer, but also restricts flow through over time: Nick, let us know and we will give you a system at discount if you track and document the results. We trap 95% plus of the oil and other compounds, most other brands only come in around 15-30% max. So the right system is critical on these new GDI engines. LS valve at 142,000 miles with port injection: LT valve at 5500 miles:

08-17-2017, 11:02 AM	#4
Burly Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Spotsylvania, VA Posts: 724 View My Garage	And empty it often. Got a little lazy and didn't check for almost 3000 miles and was nearly full. I am sure our humid summer weather played role but I was surprised how much was in there.

08-17-2017, 08:52 PM	#6
shinysun Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Korea Posts: 417	I have a catch can , but the situation is the similar to you. If Elite Catch can has the better performance, I better change .

08-18-2017, 01:16 PM	#7
Elite Engineering Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Denver Posts: 1,382	We have several different mounting solutions for the Gen6 PD blowers. For the LT4 we have a special adapter designed just for the LT4. Also, there is no more effective separation system on the market period than our E2-X series. it traps 95-98% of all of the oil, water, acid, and other compounds from ingestion. Compare to most other cans that come in at 15-30% range. Anyone can test this to see firsthand. Simply start with both cans cleaned of all residue. Place the E2-X inline AFTER any other design and run for 2k miles. Drain both cans and document what each trapped (in most cases we catch more than the first can and that's AFTER the vapors have passed through the first one). Then, clean both of all residue so all is fair and accurate and install the E2-X first in line and the other design second. Almost nothing gets past the E2-X series, and it does it without flow restriction or other issues. All while maintaining a emissions compliant closed system. (NOT CA approved yet).

08-19-2017, 09:14 AM	#8
80sMetalDude Drives: . Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: . Posts: 508	I installed a Whipple supercharger and the first one was bad I had to pull the heads. my Camaro only had about 1,800 miles on it at the time and I could not believe how much build-up there was already on the valves and pistons. You can look at my build thread for the pictures. I would be interested in this as well because if there was that much build-up in my motor from just 1800 miles I can't imagine what another 10,000 would be like!! Nick I think I'm going to pull my lid and take a look too. I don't see any link to the product though.. while looking on my phone...

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