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Old 12-16-2011, 11:16 AM   #15
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True about the V6 in a muscle car, however the Camaro V6 is very capable. I just immediately thought of the Mustang II and what a hunk of crap that was and how ugly it was. Looks like a Pinto with the Pep Boys Package.
But the V6's haven't always been capable, they were just there to sell more cars. This one is an exception, but also hints at future capabilities.

In this changing world of higher fuel prices, tighter government restrictions and improving technology it would be naive to think that V8's will be around forever. So at some point, even the most diehard among us will have to accept the change that the future will no doubt bring.
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:20 AM   #16
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There is no doubt in my mine there will be a v8 in the 6th gen camaro I just hope the v8 gets bigger not smaller
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:49 AM   #17
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You don't put a V6 in a true muscle car either...but they do. I wouldn't be suprised at all to see a nearly 300 horse turbo 4 in a lightweight Camaro.....but I'd take the 6 over that (and yes I know...everyone would want to take the V8 over that lol)
The V6 Camaro isn't a muscle car though, it's a pony car, just like the I-6 Mustangs of the 60s.

If the ATS chassy was used for the 6th gen Camaro it's hard to know if they would squeeze an 8 cylinder in there but for the ATS line I highly doubt they would use an 8 since it's competing with 3 series and C class mercedes with I-6s.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:35 PM   #18
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Numbers speak................how impressive is the power and towing of the new Ford V6 - twin turbo?? How many truck drivers said they'd never have anything less than a V8.

Without a doubt, the Gen6 will have a v8. But it may only be the Z/28 and ZL1.
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:46 PM   #19
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Numbers speak................how impressive is the power and towing of the new Ford V6 - twin turbo?? How many truck drivers said they'd never have anything less than a V8.

Without a doubt, the Gen6 will have a v8. But it may only be the Z/28 and ZL1.
I can agree with that...wouldn't suprise me a bit. But then again I'm thinking a direct injection V8 will be in the works for the next gen Corvette and the Camaro
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Old 12-16-2011, 04:44 PM   #20
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1) 6th gen will be Alpha based.
2) 6th gen base engine will be the 2.0T. No use covering your eyes and ears and pretending like it won't happen. Take solace in knowing that the 2.0T is light years beyond any four-cylinder ever applied to a car in this class.
3) Alpha can support a Gen V V8.
4) Watch what Ford does with the Mustang...
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Old 12-16-2011, 04:57 PM   #21
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What about a variation of the small displacement v8 that is slated for the next gen Vette, do you see that making it's way to the 6th Gen camaro?

http://autos.yahoo.com/news/next-cor...turbo-v-8.html
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There have been a lot of rumors regarding the C7 and the Gen V V8s, but most of them are wrong or partially wrong.

As far as I know, the Gen Vs will retain the 5.3L and 6.2L displacements.
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:11 PM   #23
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270 hp 4-cylinder? Will the base car come with a 16.4% price decrease to compensate for a 16.4% power decrease? And will it come with a coupon for a free turbo replacement when that turbo inevitably dies half way through the useful life of the car?

I don't see the move to replacing V6s with small, premium, turbo 4s chugging along quite as smoothly in certain cars as most people think. For those of you who think there's no problem doing that, read up on new new Explorer. GM might be able to slide a turbo 4 into the lineup as a fuel economy option, or in the base LS trim level, but if they replace the V6 and V8 with a 4-cyl and V6 respectively on the mainstream LT and SS trims, there is going to be a revolt from Camaro buyers. Buyers in this segment don't want small engines. Other cars (370Z, Subaru, etc...) offer similar configurations, with similar weigh:power, and better balanced chassis for the same money or less.

My prediction, the 6th gen Camaro will have a V6 and V8 for their mainstream trims. (If a 4 is offered, it will be in addition to the V6, not a replacement). Both V6 and V8 will get small displacement decreases, and either break even or have slight power decreases, though with decreased vehicle weight, they will break even or slightly improve on weight:power. The V8 will be the gen V V-8, will have some kind of variable valve timing and direct injection. In a somewhat lighter, smaller, more aeordynamic car, both V6 and V8 will see at least a 3, maybe 4 mpg increase on their respective EPA highway ratings.
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:18 PM   #24
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If the ATS chassy was used for the 6th gen Camaro it's hard to know if they would squeeze an 8 cylinder in there
It shouldn't be a problem. That's the advantage of GM's more "old-fashioned" pushrod V8s. Cam-in-block engines take up less room, and can fit into a smaller space than an OHC V-8. The small block V8 is probably no wider than the OHC V6 that will be in the ATS, will be shorter top to bottom than both an OHC V6 and 4, and if a 4-cyl will fit length-wise, so will a V8.
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Old 12-18-2011, 08:42 PM   #25
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1) 6th gen will be Alpha based.
2) 6th gen base engine will be the 2.0T. No use covering your eyes and ears and pretending like it won't happen. Take solace in knowing that the 2.0T is light years beyond any four-cylinder ever applied to a car in this class.
3) Alpha can support a Gen V V8.
4) Watch what Ford does with the Mustang...
I've been doing some reading on mustang rumors as well, but from that statement it appears you know some good info on that as well.

I've read the next mustang, besides being a new "global" car will also be lighter than the current mustang...which is already light compared to camaro.

I have to say, I like what Ford has done design-wise with the 2013 mustang. Looking forward to seeing what their official next gen is like for the 2014 or 2015 model.
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