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Old 01-18-2017, 01:15 PM   #1
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Trying to figure out an issue

Last night my check engine light came on, said reduced engine power, and rev match stopped working even when turned on. There was also a red light on that was a P in a circle with a wrench under it which would have to do with the parking brake. The car will sometimes idle high as well around 1,000 RPMs. Only mods done to the car are rotofab that I put on recently and throttle controller that I've had on for months and thousands of miles. Anyone know what the issue could be?

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Old 01-19-2017, 04:03 PM   #2
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Last night my check engine light came on, said reduced engine power, and rev match stopped working even when turned on. There was also a red light on that was a P in a circle with a wrench under it which would have to do with the parking brake. The car will sometimes idle high as well around 1,000 RPMs. Only mods done to the car are rotofab that I put on recently and throttle controller that I've had on for months and thousands of miles. Anyone know what the issue could be?

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It's your throttle controller. The code with read too much voltage to your accelorator. The problem arises when you mess with the airflow. If you delete the secondary cats or add a cai, it causes this issue. You basically need to take the controller out or stop going WOT

Unplug and replug in your controller and then drive it for 30 miles and a couple starts and stops. The code will clear. This issue will happen over and over again.
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Old 01-19-2017, 04:27 PM   #3
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It's your throttle controller. The code with read too much voltage to your accelorator. The problem arises when you mess with the airflow. If you delete the secondary cats or add a cai, it causes this issue. You basically need to take the controller out or stop going WOT

Unplug and replug in your controller and then drive it for 30 miles and a couple starts and stops. The code will clear. This issue will happen over and over again.
If you delete the secondary cats? Can you elaborate?
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Old 01-19-2017, 04:38 PM   #4
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If you delete the secondary cats? Can you elaborate?
This is the second thread he has mentioned deleted secondary cats and having problems but hasn't elaborated.

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It's your throttle controller. The code with read too much voltage to your accelorator. The problem arises when you mess with the airflow. If you delete the secondary cats or add a cai, it causes this issue. You basically need to take the controller out or stop going WOT

Unplug and replug in your controller and then drive it for 30 miles and a couple starts and stops. The code will clear. This issue will happen over and over again.
The calibration has nothing to do with air flow. It's done with pedal position/voltage. Which is why it's done with the pedal not depressed and the pedal depressed.


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Last night my check engine light came on, said reduced engine power, and rev match stopped working even when turned on. There was also a red light on that was a P in a circle with a wrench under it which would have to do with the parking brake. The car will sometimes idle high as well around 1,000 RPMs. Only mods done to the car are rotofab that I put on recently and throttle controller that I've had on for months and thousands of miles. Anyone know what the issue could be?

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You could try recalibrating the throttle controller or removing it.

Could you have broken something or not fully connected something during the Rotofab install?
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:33 PM   #5
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I'm 99% positive that nothing was broken on the rotofab install, going to re-adjust and tighten everything up again just to be sure. If it's the throttle controller could redoing the programming help fix it now that the rotofab is on, or will it not make a difference
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:40 PM   #6
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why don you quit guessing and find out what the code is. THAT is the starting point. geez, could be anything....
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:45 PM   #7
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why don you quit guessing and find out what the code is. THAT is the starting point. geez, could be anything....
There is that.

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Old 01-19-2017, 05:59 PM   #8
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If you delete the secondary cats? Can you elaborate?
Deleting your secondary cats changes your airflow and throttle response a bit. As a result, your throttle controller causes your throttle position sensor to think there is too much juice going into your throttle. As a result, you'll get a throttle
Position voltage CEL.

the same principle can be applied to your cai. The factory throttle position sensor has a range that it can be in without throwing codes. The vitesse at WOT pushes that boundary, and any other mods that effect throttle
Response even slightly will cause issues. Especially on a higher setting on the throttle controller.

I learned this from dealing with the issue myself. go read the code at an autozone and you'll see what I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with calibrating it.
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Deleting your secondary cats changes your airflow and throttle response a bit. As a result, your throttle controller causes your throttle position sensor to think there is too much juice going into your throttle. As a result, you'll get a throttle
Position voltage CEL.

the same principle can be applied to your cai. The factory throttle position sensor has a range that it can be in without throwing codes. The vitesse at WOT pushes that boundary, and any other mods that effect throttle
Response even slightly will cause issues. Especially on a higher setting on the throttle controller.

I learned this from dealing with the issue myself. go read the code at an autozone and you'll see what I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with calibrating it.
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Old 01-19-2017, 06:03 PM   #10
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This is the second thread he has mentioned deleted secondary cats and having problems but hasn't elaborated.



The calibration has nothing to do with air flow. It's done with pedal position/voltage. Which is why it's done with the pedal not depressed and the pedal depressed.




You could try recalibrating the throttle controller or removing it.

Could you have broken something or not fully connected something during the Rotofab install?
My friend...I know how a throttle controller works. The new airflow is changing the throttle position outside of the operating range. Its only because he has the throttle controller though. At WOT it pushes the throttle
Position past the range.

Like I said... the code will be throttle position voltage CEL.
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Old 01-19-2017, 06:05 PM   #11
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No prob my friend. That issue puzzled me for the longest time.
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Old 01-19-2017, 06:36 PM   #12
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why don you quit guessing and find out what the code is. THAT is the starting point. geez, could be anything....
I agree. How do you spend hundreds on "upgrades" and not invest in a code reader (like $50 at harbor freight)???
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Old 01-19-2017, 07:07 PM   #13
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Deleting your secondary cats changes your airflow and throttle response a bit. As a result, your throttle controller causes your throttle position sensor to think there is too much juice going into your throttle. As a result, you'll get a throttle
Position voltage CEL.

the same principle can be applied to your cai. The factory throttle position sensor has a range that it can be in without throwing codes. The vitesse at WOT pushes that boundary, and any other mods that effect throttle
Response even slightly will cause issues. Especially on a higher setting on the throttle controller.

I learned this from dealing with the issue myself. go read the code at an autozone and you'll see what I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with calibrating it.

In my experience this is true. I have the VTC. I went to an exhaust shop to have my secondary cats removed last year. First thing I did post install was to rev the engine to see how much louder it was over stock and got a CEL. It was related to the throttle positioning. I removed the VTC and drove home. When I got home I disconnected the battery overnight and reconnected in the morning. Reinstalled and reprogrammed the VTC and haven't had any issues since. I've done plenty of WOT runs and no more codes.
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Old 01-19-2017, 07:38 PM   #14
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In my experience this is true. I have the VTC. I went to an exhaust shop to have my secondary cats removed last year. First thing I did post install was to rev the engine to see how much louder it was over stock and got a CEL. It was related to the throttle positioning. I removed the VTC and drove home. When I got home I disconnected the battery overnight and reconnected in the morning. Reinstalled and reprogrammed the VTC and haven't had any issues since. I've done plenty of WOT runs and no more codes.
Yeah I had that same issue with my corvette. The ecu takes a couple miles to adjust to the changes and in some cases, it's within the range to not throw a code and you're good. In my case, after adding a corsa x pipe which deleted my secondary cats and adding a afe cai, it was too far out of the range and I got a CEL like once a week.

The other thing I noticed is that I only got the CEL in track mode. Tour and sport were fine because it had a less aggressive throttle setting in those modes. I finally got fed up and just had my tuner tune the throttle response to my liking.
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