FenwickHockey65's Great Thread of GM Knowledge - Page 255

POWERFREAK · 07-18-2016, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

The goal is sales & profit ... not making enthusiasts happy. The vast majority of people want the size & space of an SUV but don't care for truck-like ride, handling, or fuel economy. Hence, crossovers. Sure, an SUV is going to be a bit better than a similar crossover while off-road or towing. But since most people (including SUV owners) never do those things, that advantage is largely irrelevant. About the biggest argument for making a midsize SUV is to offer something to people who simply don't like the concept of a crossover and don't want something as big as a Tahoe. I'm not sure thats a very big group of people.

Yup, i know, that seems to be their thinking...But the majority didn't seem to think the colorado would sell, because who wants a small pickup? (ha, it's selling awesome, and here comes the Ford Ranger). You build a good product and it'll sell. Ford is bringing back the bronco, and it will sell. Dodge/Jeep seem to be gearing towards enthusiasts more and more, and they seem to be growing pretty well (haven't they outsold chevy and ford recently?). GMs choices smaller then a tahoe are for soccermoms, plain and simple. If they didn't care about enthusiasts at all, why the z28, why the SS, why the ZR1? They do care a little. Why not a midsized SUV that's cool? I guess we'll find out in 2018.

GroundhogSS · 07-18-2016, 02:17 PM

We really need a return of the Trailblazer/Envoy. Our Envoy with the 5.3 is a great vehicle. My wife would like another one just like it.

FenwickHockey65 · 07-18-2016, 04:12 PM

The best thing for GM to do if they want to build a true BOF midsize SUV is to badge it a GMC. It can command higher ATPs at lower volumes.

FenwickHockey65 · 07-19-2016, 07:11 AM

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/07/18/2...ave-spy-shots/

2018 Enclave.

FenwickHockey65 · 07-19-2016, 10:36 PM

EPA has backed off the 54.5 MPG fleet wide CAFE standard.

Goblue1313 · 07-20-2016, 08:27 AM

Looks like no sporty entry model from GM any time soon. I know a caddy wouldn't be an entry model but the small caddy would have more than likely shown up as a chevy too.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/fu...18-109618.html

*DGthe3* · 07-20-2016, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

EPA has backed off the 54.5 MPG fleet wide CAFE standard.

Not surprised. It was overly ambitious to start with and the public hasn't gotten on board with hybrids and EVs in sufficient quantities to make it feasible.

Know what its being scaled back to? My guess would be 50 mpg, since its a nice round number but if they were concerned about that in the first place, the target would have been 55 mpg not 54.5.

*DGthe3* · 07-20-2016, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Goblue1313

Looks like no sporty entry model from GM any time soon. I know a caddy wouldn't be an entry model but the small caddy would have more than likely shown up as a chevy too.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/fu...18-109618.html

Cadillac needs crossovers an awful lot more than a sub ATS sized sedan.

FenwickHockey65 · 07-20-2016, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Not surprised. It was overly ambitious to start with and the public hasn't gotten on board with hybrids and EVs in sufficient quantities to make it feasible.

Know what its being scaled back to? My guess would be 50 mpg, since its a nice round number but if they were concerned about that in the first place, the target would have been 55 mpg not 54.5.

I'm not sure a solid new target has been established, but from what I understand the EPA basically is now saying the 54.5 MPG figure was just an estimate and not a hard goal.

FenwickHockey65 · 07-20-2016, 02:42 PM

If anyone has $5500 lying around and wants a piece of GM legend...

Unused GM 4.5L Diesel Duramax Engine Motor OEM

*DGthe3* · 07-20-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

If anyone has $5500 lying around and wants a piece of GM legend...

Unused GM 4.5L Diesel Duramax Engine Motor OEM

Is GM clearing out their R&D centre via ebay?

FenwickHockey65 · 07-20-2016, 03:19 PM

Seems like LKQ is the one selling it, so someone's theory is an IVER with the 4.5L Duramax wrecked and was sent to scrap, but somehow the engine fell through the cracks and ended up here.

The question now is, does GM care enough to get this engine back? The 4.5L program is pretty much dead and buried by now.

FenwickHockey65 · 07-21-2016, 06:18 PM

This is the Chinese-spec D2XX Chevrolet Cruze. It launched last year.

Apparently it has already been canned in favor of the NA-spec D2XX Cruze.

FenwickHockey65 · 07-23-2016, 09:01 PM

Corvette C7.Rs 1 and 2 at Lime Rock. 100th win for the program, 60th 1-2 finish.

07-18-2016, 02:17 PM	#3558
GroundhogSS Drives: '17 2SS convertible'20 Yukon Denali Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Cedar Park, Texas Posts: 2,931	We really need a return of the Trailblazer/Envoy. Our Envoy with the 5.3 is a great vehicle. My wife would like another one just like it. __________________ Richard 2017 2SS SIM convertible, A8, NPP, MRC, 56R wheels, GM CAI, Diode Dynamics Side Markers Delivered: 08/15/2016 #TeamBeckyD

07-18-2016, 04:12 PM	#3559
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	The best thing for GM to do if they want to build a true BOF midsize SUV is to badge it a GMC. It can command higher ATPs at lower volumes. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

07-19-2016, 07:11 AM	#3560
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	http://www.autoblog.com/2016/07/18/2...ave-spy-shots/ 2018 Enclave. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

07-19-2016, 10:36 PM	#3561
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	EPA has backed off the 54.5 MPG fleet wide CAFE standard. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

07-20-2016, 02:42 PM	#3566
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	If anyone has $5500 lying around and wants a piece of GM legend... Unused GM 4.5L Diesel Duramax Engine Motor OEM __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

07-20-2016, 08:27 AM	#3562
Goblue1313 Drives: F350 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: SC Posts: 56	Looks like no sporty entry model from GM any time soon. I know a caddy wouldn't be an entry model but the small caddy would have more than likely shown up as a chevy too. http://www.autoevolution.com/news/fu...18-109618.html

07-20-2016, 03:19 PM	#3568
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	Seems like LKQ is the one selling it, so someone's theory is an IVER with the 4.5L Duramax wrecked and was sent to scrap, but somehow the engine fell through the cracks and ended up here. The question now is, does GM care enough to get this engine back? The 4.5L program is pretty much dead and buried by now. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

07-21-2016, 06:18 PM	#3569
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	This is the Chinese-spec D2XX Chevrolet Cruze. It launched last year. Apparently it has already been canned in favor of the NA-spec D2XX Cruze. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

07-23-2016, 09:01 PM	#3570
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	Corvette C7.Rs 1 and 2 at Lime Rock. 100th win for the program, 60th 1-2 finish. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

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