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Old 03-08-2014, 05:22 PM   #29
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Just read the article in this month's Car and Driver
They have a Porsche 918 Spider for about $847K basic model , Magnesium , Titanium ,Inconel ,carbon fiber on several parts , even the connecting rods are in titanium
How much are one willing to pay for this things is a different question

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Old 03-09-2014, 11:16 AM   #30
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Aluminum is high cost. Tooling is different. All chromed working surfaces. Shallow draw. Lots of air release holes. The process is slower and QC is the highest. I can see hood, doors and roof panel but question the rest. Maybe front fenders if the design isn't to complicated. GM is not a leader in this field, so I see some outside contractors doing a lot of the initial work here. This is absolutely nothing like drawing DQSK steel. Not even close. I would recommend to GM to NOT use people from a steel stamping facility to make any aluminum parts. Major mistake. Requires muti-speed transfer presses. FYI the thickest metal used to make any body part was the late 80s Camaro Firebird T top, convertible rear quarters. .040 steel
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Old 03-09-2014, 02:12 PM   #31
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The problem with aluminum is its a body repairmens nightmare. Its harder to work with and will be more expensive to repair. Some minor repairs on panels will probably be ending replaced than patched costing a lot more.
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Old 03-09-2014, 06:10 PM   #32
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The trunk lid is too.
Isn't that only on the 2014's?
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Old 03-09-2014, 07:11 PM   #33
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The problem with aluminum is its a body repairmens nightmare. Its harder to work with and will be more expensive to repair. Some minor repairs on panels will probably be ending replaced than patched costing a lot more.

Somebody I was having a conversation about the new F-150 with mentioned "explosive sanding dust" hmmmm... sounds sketchy. It's the way of the future though. Thanks to the new CAFE standards that are here and on the way.
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Old 03-09-2014, 11:29 PM   #34
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That's new for 2014



Yeah, I would definitely come to one in Daytona. All the other ones except the first one in GA were too far for me to take my fourth gen.
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Isn't that only on the 2014's?

How do we know the trunk lid for the 14's is aluminum? Just curious

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Old 03-09-2014, 11:50 PM   #35
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Do we expect to see some prototype by now? or mid year?
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Old 03-09-2014, 11:58 PM   #36
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It would be great to hear something before I pull the trigger on a 14. I'm wondering if because GM is so quiet, maybe 15 will be the restyle?
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^Are you trading your Mustang for a 2014 Camaro?
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:26 AM   #38
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No, I will be keeping the mustang, at least I'm going to try. I sold my 13 ZL1 and miss it, I guess you could say I'm a Chevy guy at heart.
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How do we know the trunk lid for the 14's is aluminum? Just curious

Thanks guys
Somebody get a magnet!
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Thats a great idea, can anyone confirm this?
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hydroforming aluminum, new welding technicques, GM is on the forefront of alot of engineering breakthroughs...with a forward outlook on green sustainability.
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