December 2012 Camaro Sales and Production Figures (and vs. Mustang & Challenger) - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Enator · 01-03-2013, 10:15 AM

December 2012 Delivery (sales) Stats:

Camaro December 2012 Deliveries (actual sales): 5,837 -14% (Pr Ye)

December 2012 Production Stats:

Camaro Produced in December 2012: 7,378

Compared to Competition:

Mustang sold 5,537 units in December 2012 +10% (Pr Ye)
Challenger sold 3,942 units in December 2012 +20% (Pr Ye)

Enator · 01-03-2013, 10:15 AM

New year and here comes sales figures for 1964 - 2012

Angrybird 12 · 01-03-2013, 10:22 AM

Almost a dead heat between the Camaro and Mustang. But the Camaro wins by a nose...it will be interesting this year.

LAWMAN · 01-03-2013, 01:39 PM

We are still in the lead barely,down 14% from last year but alot were sold last year,the Challenger sure has picked up though,20% increase,all three cars look good to me,but i have always been a Chevy person,

Fish-man · 01-03-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Enator

New year and here comes sales figures for 1964 - 2012

I wonder what these charts look like if you add Firebird to the Camaro volume(obviously only til '02)

47AJV8 · 01-03-2013, 01:54 PM

You have to feel bad for the challenger, it just doesn't stand a chance! I mean, I like it but seriously, what it needs is to lose 300lbs, make 450 hp in R/T trim (~600 for SRT8), have a better steering wheel, upgraded rolls bars, better tires, better steering feel, less cheap interior plastics, smaller, lighter seats, and bigger better brakes, maybe the same brembo's as on the SS. There's the recipe, haha, never going to happen though!

meissen · 01-03-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish-man

I wonder what these charts look like if you add Firebird to the Camaro volume(obviously only til '02)

Just for grins - maybe the OP can add the figures in below just to see how much of a difference it made.
http://www.transamworld.com/bird-prod-numbers.php

1967 - 82,560
1968 - 107,112
1969 - 87,011
1970 - 48,749
1971 - 53,125
1972 - 29,951
1973 - 46,313
1974 - 73,729
1975 - 84,063
1976 - 110,775
1977 - 155,736
1978 - 187,285
1979 - 211,454
1980 - 107,340
1981 - 70,899
1982 - 116,364
1983 - 74,884
1984 - 128,304
1985 - 95,880
1986 - 110,465
1987 - 88,612
1988 - 62,445
1989 - 64,409
1990 - 20,553
1991 - 51,184
1992 - 27,569
1993 - 15,342
1994 - 51,523
1995 - 56,723
1996 - 26,699
1997 - 30,828
1998 - 32,974
1999 - 36,212
2000 - 31,582
2001 - 20,927
2002 - 23,330

Fish-man · 01-03-2013, 03:06 PM

Thanks Brian!

b4z · 01-03-2013, 03:39 PM

What I don't get is why chevy doesn't advertise and recertify the SAE hp of the '13s with electric steering and the models with the NPP exhaust. It might spur a few sales. Heck I used to buy a new z28 every year in the '80s and a few improvements here and there would have me buying a new one.

The IOM Ninja · 01-03-2013, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by b4z

What I don't get is why chevy doesn't advertise and recertify the SAE hp of the '13s with electric steering and the models with the NPP exhaust. It might spur a few sales. Heck I used to buy a new z28 every year in the '80s and a few improvements here and there would have me buying a new one.

Because they would:

1. Have to pay for the SAE recertification testing

2. It would amount to all of maybe 10-15 RWHP

=Stephens= · 01-03-2013, 06:46 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/...ntcmp=features
Drag races are often won by the slimmest of margins, and the muscle car sales race was no different last year.
After blowing it away by over 18,000 units in 2011, the Chevrolet Camaro outsold the Ford Mustang by the slimmest of margins in 2012, with the final tally standing at 84,391 vs. 82,995.
The ‘Stang picked up sales thanks to a mild redesign and the addition of a 202 mph Shelby GT500 to the lineup, but it still wasn’t enough to topple the retro-futuristic fifth generation Camaro, which has been the top dog since returning for the 2010 model year.
As for the only other muscle machine on the market, the Dodge Challenger, well, it looks like there is a reason that drag races are between two cars. Dodge was only able to move 43,110 of them in 2012.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/...#ixzz2GxmXTLDQ

Hamilton2400 · 01-03-2013, 06:52 PM

Heck yeah!

v6sonoma · 01-03-2013, 06:59 PM

They can knock the dodge all they want but if they look at the numbers the Challengers have been steadily increasing since the beginning.

Moto-Mojo · 01-03-2013, 08:20 PM

Interesting 1964 to present graph. Could the Mustang and F-150 alone have saved Ford from GM's fate?

01-03-2013, 10:15 AM	#1
Enator Drives: 2011 SHELBY GT500 & Volvo S80 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 395	December 2012 Camaro Sales and Production Figures (and vs. Mustang & Challenger) December 2012 Delivery (sales) Stats: Camaro December 2012 Deliveries (actual sales): 5,837 -14% (Pr Ye) December 2012 Production Stats: Camaro Produced in December 2012: 7,378 Compared to Competition: Mustang sold 5,537 units in December 2012 +10% (Pr Ye) Challenger sold 3,942 units in December 2012 +20% (Pr Ye) Attached Images

01-03-2013, 10:15 AM	#2
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01-03-2013, 10:22 AM	#3
Angrybird 12 7 year Cancer Survivor! Drives: 17 Cruze RS, 07 G6 GT, 99 Astro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 21,547	Almost a dead heat between the Camaro and Mustang. But the Camaro wins by a nose...it will be interesting this year. __________________ Cancer's a bitch! Enjoy life while you can! LIVE, LOVE, DRIVE... The Bird is the word!

01-03-2013, 01:39 PM	#4
LAWMAN Drives: 2010 cam.2ss/rs.iom,07'escalade esv Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pasc.Ms. Posts: 841	We are still in the lead barely,down 14% from last year but alot were sold last year,the Challenger sure has picked up though,20% increase,all three cars look good to me,but i have always been a Chevy person, __________________ A9120159 1100:12/19/08 3800:06/19/09 6000:07/02/09

01-03-2013, 01:54 PM	#6
47AJV8 Drives: A White Car Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 342	You have to feel bad for the challenger, it just doesn't stand a chance! I mean, I like it but seriously, what it needs is to lose 300lbs, make 450 hp in R/T trim (~600 for SRT8), have a better steering wheel, upgraded rolls bars, better tires, better steering feel, less cheap interior plastics, smaller, lighter seats, and bigger better brakes, maybe the same brembo's as on the SS. There's the recipe, haha, never going to happen though! __________________ "From ABS shudder that came on surprisingly early in the lousy brake pedal's travel to a looser rear end than Kim Kardashian"

01-03-2013, 03:06 PM	#8
Fish-man Drives: too many to say! Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: S.E. Michigan Posts: 1,013	Thanks Brian!

01-03-2013, 03:39 PM	#9
b4z Drives: '06 Pontiac GTO M6, '19 F150 2.7TT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,425	What I don't get is why chevy doesn't advertise and recertify the SAE hp of the '13s with electric steering and the models with the NPP exhaust. It might spur a few sales. Heck I used to buy a new z28 every year in the '80s and a few improvements here and there would have me buying a new one.

01-03-2013, 06:46 PM	#11
=Stephens= Drives: 2011 LS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Kearney, Nebraska Posts: 3,541 View My Garage	Camaro outsells Mustang for 2012 http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/...ntcmp=features Drag races are often won by the slimmest of margins, and the muscle car sales race was no different last year. After blowing it away by over 18,000 units in 2011, the Chevrolet Camaro outsold the Ford Mustang by the slimmest of margins in 2012, with the final tally standing at 84,391 vs. 82,995. The ‘Stang picked up sales thanks to a mild redesign and the addition of a 202 mph Shelby GT500 to the lineup, but it still wasn’t enough to topple the retro-futuristic fifth generation Camaro, which has been the top dog since returning for the 2010 model year. As for the only other muscle machine on the market, the Dodge Challenger, well, it looks like there is a reason that drag races are between two cars. Dodge was only able to move 43,110 of them in 2012. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/...#ixzz2GxmXTLDQ

01-03-2013, 06:52 PM	#12
Hamilton2400 Drives: 2014 GMC Sierra/2015 GMC Acadia Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cookeville TN Posts: 722 View My Garage	Heck yeah!

01-03-2013, 06:59 PM	#13
v6sonoma Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 8,108 View My Garage	They can knock the dodge all they want but if they look at the numbers the Challengers have been steadily increasing since the beginning. __________________ Mods: BBK Intake, BBK LT's and High Flow Cats, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Hurst short throw shifter, SLP skip-shift eliminator. 7/1/09 Placed order for IOM/IO int/ SS/RS 6M 9/26/09 Took delivery!

01-03-2013, 08:20 PM	#14
Moto-Mojo Fast Cars and Old Guitars Drives: 2015 2SS RS (L99, baby!) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,974	Interesting 1964 to present graph. Could the Mustang and F-150 alone have saved Ford from GM's fate?