[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Jeb114

Auto Blog Mag/ did I read it wrong.
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Going back to their origins in the Swinging '60s, the Ford Mustang and Chevrolet Camaro have been fierce rivals for fans' hearts and dollars. Historically, the Ford often led in volume, but Chevy took the muscle car top spot in 2009 upon the Camaro's rebirth. However, with the launch of the latest Blue Oval pony car, the tide is turning back in Ford's favor.

November was the first full month of sales for the new 2015 Mustang, and according to TheDetroitBureau.com, the model did spectacularly well. The Blue Oval shifted 8,728 of them, up 62 percent from same month last year, with the automaker proclaiming it the model's best November sales since 2006. Conversely, 4,385 units of the Camaro were delivered, down 13.5 percent year-over-year, meaning its sales were roughly half that of the new-generation Mustang

It does not say how long that tide will shift in the Mustangs favor does it? It could be short lived when the 6th gen Camaro hits the market. We will just have to see...

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

It does not say how long that tide will shift in the Mustangs favor does it? It could be short lived when the 6th gen Camaro hits the market. We will just have to see...

Given the underwelming reception the Mustang has gotten from its faithful I expect Camaro to retake the lead.

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by Jeb114

What you all miss is GM is not in the financial shape you think its in. Mustangs are selling 2 to one over Camaro and that's why they have to make it a world car. Lighter and smaller with better fuel economy, something Europe will accept! They build cars to make money, not to satisfy everyone's needs, and 2014/2015 they had a lot of very low selling losing money model lines. example SS, Z/28. The list goes on!!

I have no idea of where you are getting this information from - but you are wrong on every point. Go look at the sales charts since 2010 -- (and if you want a REAL shocker, take out the mustang 'fleet' number...) We sell Camaro all over the world - 164 countries as I recall. Yes we make cars to make money - we owe that to our stockholders. But we have no 'losing money' lines.

I don't mean to be harsh or belittle you -- just setting the record straight.

[90503]

Well, so far this year doesn't look all that great....last year was "close"....Unless this 6thGen is for sale pretty soon, don't know what would put the 15 Camaro back on top...

[ssrs2lt]

Yeah right now sales aren't even close..last yr ended with a slim victory. If they don't start selling gen 6 idk...

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by 90503

Well, so far this year doesn't look all that great....last year was "close"....Unless this 6thGen is for sale pretty soon, don't know what would put the 15 Camaro back on top...

You're correct YTD 2015 -- but that's to be expected with a new mustang - but look at the numbers from the fall of 2009 thru the end of 2014.
Further - Mustang puts many more vehicles into fleet (rentals primarily) than Camaro.

[newb]

I would bet money this year was written off before it started. They are more concerned with long term sales over this year with an old platform vs a brand new one. Any idiot could see the Mustang had an advantage this year. Next year and the next 5 years will tell the real story.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

You're correct YTD 2015 -- but that's to be expected with a new mustang - but look at the numbers from the fall of 2009 thru the end of 2014.
Further - Mustang puts many more vehicles into fleet (rentals primarily) than Camaro.

Eh Those complaining are probably the same doom and gloomers that said the 14 refresh was a total failure...and we all know it wasn't.

I said it before, Mustang is selling way over its head right now, and the Camaro is still holding up to the levels it was before, so obviously the Camaro isn't losing any sales to the new Mustang, or the Challenger refresh. So in my opinion it can only get better when the 6th gen comes out while the Mustang has only one way to go..... Some people form opinions on short term results. I on the other hand would rather look at the big picture and the long term.

[Jeb114]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

You're correct YTD 2015 -- but that's to be expected with a new mustang - but look at the numbers from the fall of 2009 thru the end of 2014.
Further - Mustang puts many more vehicles into fleet (rentals primarily) than Camaro.

So I am not wrong on every point???????

[ssrs2lt]

Ab 12 it's not gloom and doom it's what's happening right now.. I can't say gm figured to get whooped 2-1 this last quarter. That's the first time since 5 gen was introduced that Ford took sales control. I hope the 6 gen has the answer. I purchased 2 5th gens, I hope I'll want to purchase 2 more 6 gens..

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Jeb114

Auto Blog Mag/ did I read it wrong.
.
Going back to their origins in the Swinging '60s, the Ford Mustang and Chevrolet Camaro have been fierce rivals for fans' hearts and dollars. Historically, the Ford often led in volume, but Chevy took the muscle car top spot in 2009 upon the Camaro's rebirth. However, with the launch of the latest Blue Oval pony car, the tide is turning back in Ford's favor.

November was the first full month of sales for the new 2015 Mustang, and according to TheDetroitBureau.com, the model did spectacularly well. The Blue Oval shifted 8,728 of them, up 62 percent from same month last year, with the automaker proclaiming it the model's best November sales since 2006. Conversely, 4,385 units of the Camaro were delivered, down 13.5 percent year-over-year, meaning its sales were roughly half that of the new-generation Mustang

Originally Posted by Jeb114

So I am not wrong on every point???????

Take a look at the graph. Sales are up on the Camaro YTD compared to the same time last year. 11,000 vs 17,000 is not selling 2 to 1. November (the first month the '15 Mustang was only sale) was the only month it was 2 to 1 and that's not a shocker. I mean what did you expect.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by ssrs2lt

Ab 12 it's not gloom and doom it's what's happening right now.. I can't say gm figured to get whooped 2-1 this last quarter. That's the first time since 5 gen was introduced that Ford took sales control. I hope the 6 gen has the answer. I purchased 2 5th gens, I hope I'll want to purchase 2 more 6 gens..

Let me ask you, has the new Mustang hurt Camaro sales in any way?
Has Chevy done anything to the 15 Camaro to increase sales over previous years?
Do you think Chevy would have sold more Camaros if there had not been a new Mustang come out this year?
Would you expect the Camaro sales to increase without Chevy doing anything to the car when it is competing with an all new model?
I bet GM is tickled pink that it hasn't dropped in sales.

[ssrs2lt]

Fair enough I see your points, and they are valid. But new cars sales are all up this year but the camaro isn't keeping up with the overall sales trend. I want the camaro to rule that's why I'm concerned about the mustang taking total sales control. Here in va the local dealers can't keep them on the lots.. Which shows an evolution of body style does work for sales..Go Camaro

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