[DenverTaco07]

Originally Posted by EddieC

650hp LT4 tuned for Nurburgring. I would like some creature comforts that when you get to the track are easily removed to conserve on weight. Nurburgring times under 7:08. This would make the other manufacturers freak! A car for under $100K blowing their doors off. Also the new chassis can be configured with AWD. Z2/8 650hp AWD! Can you say 10 second Quarters?

so you want a GT-R, there are people that will buy a Z06 over a GT-R for the mere fact that the Z06 DOES NOT HAVE AWD - so if you want a GT-R, they are available.

[Thebeezwax]

My interpretation of comparison models

Camaro SS=Mustang GT
Camaro 1LE=Mustang Boss 302
Camaro ZL1=Shelby GT500
Camaro z/28=GT350-R
c7z=Ford GT

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by Thebeezwax

My interpretation of comparison models

Camaro SS=Mustang GT
Camaro 1LE=Mustang Boss 302
Camaro ZL1=Shelby GT500
Camaro z/28=GT350-R
c7z=Ford GT

Looks good to me

[IOMike]

The ZL1 with an LT4 and around 650hp should have no issue with a GT350R on a track.

The Z/28 can compete with the GT350 and some tweaks to the LT-1 could push it to 500-510hp. This NA "LT5" would embarrass a GT350 on the track and on the street.

In this setup, which to me makes sense, the Z/28 would most likely not be faster than the GT350R on the track, but that would be what the ZL1 is for.

[joes407]

Ive owned 3 z28s in my camaro owning days and i wouldve loved a new one but for one they were way out of my price range and my camaros are usually always daily drivers and i cant daily drive a z28 w tires that only last 5k miles

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

If they follow suit on the Z/28, which is a very focused track car, if they drop one of the other, then it should be the Z/28 they drop. I'm not privy to gm's books, but my bet is the ZL1 was far more a money maker than the Z/28.

I'd be happy if they throw an LT4 in the SS, call it whatever they want - maybe add aero kit, that would be good enough for me. My guess is that it won't be good enough for GM and they will blow our freakin minds with the next LT4 version.

I agree the ZL1 I'm sure was the money maker over the Z28. I see GM going with the ZL1 first over the Z28. Or they may come out with them both at the same time to compete with the GT350.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by 90503

Ok...a wild guess here...

No 1LE....optioned up SS with all the goodies aces out the need for a 1LE...

ZL-1 gets the current LT-4....

Z/28 goes full tilt track with.................the TTV6!.....It would be a good way to introduce the TTV6 as the engine/wave of the future....

As No.3 mentioned with the Supercharged Z/06, all bets are off....and anything is possible...

I was thinking the same thing. I'm thinking they are going to do something radical this time, so maybe a TTV6 (they have those already) or a TTV8 (in the works??? Perhaps using the 5.3 as a base?). I'm thinking it is going to be pretty amazing whatever it is.

[Bassment]

If I was designing the next ZL1 I'd twin turbo the v8 and try to hit 708 HP, along with the typical handling/suspension/weight loss upgrades. Beat the challenger for HP, beat the mustang in track Z28 would be supercharged and 100% optimized for the track.

[vgradio]

LT4, around 650 HP
Convertible version with bigger rear speakers
Auto transmission 8
Full leather option
Better interior quality
Front parking sensor
Front camera (i have one on mine )
Better sound system
Recaro seats as option

[Thebeezwax]

The Hellcat is heavy and fat and needs that extra power but doesn't handle for shit when you compare it to the z28 and especially the GT350 and forget the R package... it's just a high HP car... totally different kind of buyer... I couldn't see GM making the Camaro any more than the 650 from the LT4. It just doesn't make sense to me...

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by IOMike

The ZL1 with an LT4 and around 650hp should have no issue with a GT350R on a track.

The Z/28 can compete with the GT350 and some tweaks to the LT-1 could push it to 500-510hp. This NA "LT5" would embarrass a GT350 on the track and on the street.

In this setup, which to me makes sense, the Z/28 would most likely not be faster than the GT350R on the track, but that would be what the ZL1 is for.

The LT4 Z shouldn't compete with the GT350R. It should be competing with the GT500.

[xgnxs]

LT4 in the ZL1, that's all it really needs, it seems like. You could throw "improved brakes" in there if you'd like. Interior looks top-notch as it is, MRC will already be an option on the SS, so standard on the ZL1.

For the Z/28, some kind of NA V8 that they don't have yet (or that mysterious NA V8 that they didn't use for the Z06). It wouldn't need to be much more powerful than the LS7, since the car is already losing 200 lbs. I'm sure they'd take out more weight, add CC brakes, optional A/C / radio like last time.

I don't know, it seems like the 6th gen is already a pretty awesome base car, they wouldn't need to change a whole lot for the ZL1 and Z/28. But they'll come up with something and blow us all away. Probably.

[IOMike]

I'd really like the Z/28 to be an obtainable car, something like 48-55k. The ZL1 will cost 63-68k with the LT4 as is.

[Camaro_Corvette]

Fellas I highly doubt that they will bring the Z/28 down in price. The Z/28 just set a high benchmark for itself and the next one should be an improvement over the last. The 1LE will fit your bill just fine if they add a few more track focused tid bits onto it.