This is how Chevy treats my $45,000 "track ready" car

[Kiteboarder85]

Originally Posted by 1KillerSS

I hate to say thank you for this, Its unfortunate for you, I did however learn a sh!t ton of information, and completely understand how you must have felt. While I have my opinion now, I would have been in your shoes for not researching the warranty card or owners manual.

Agreed, this thread has given me much needed info. I'm glad I followed this.

Good luck with the outcome OP

[1KillerSS]

Originally Posted by Cooley

If you look on youtube, you should be able to find the announcement from the last camarofest. I also believe there is a link to it hidden somewhere in this thread.

The way I remember the announcement, the warranty coverage for the Z28, ZL1 and 1LE are the same for track use.

Its frustrating, when I google search "track warranty coverage/z28/1le/zl1" or any possible combination of that, to include other wording, I can't get to anything but the links I posted, not one thing can I find on GM's website about it.

I even went so far as to call my local chevy dealer to see if he could email me the card, I told them why I was calling and got voice mail....I don't think they were dodging me, but man I've been striking out all day.

[White_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

I think the best way to deal with this is if you track your car, keep it to yourself. Do not announce to the dealer that you do so, and when you do in, make the car look as much as possible like a daily driver. In my opinion, the dealer will then evaluate the problem form that standpoint. Any amount of pride you felt explaining to the dealer how good your lap time was will surely be lost when it affects his evaluation of your car. If abuse is involved, then you are still potentially out of luck.

about as well said as it could ever be!

[gajagfan]

I think the best way to deal with this is if you track your car, keep it to yourself. Do not announce to the dealer that you do so, and when you do in, make the car look as much as possible like a daily driver. In my opinion, the dealer will then evaluate the problem form that standpoint. Any amount of pride you felt explaining to the dealer how good your lap time was will surely be lost when it affects his evaluation of your car. If abuse is involved, then you are still potentially out of luck.

[Jc's1LE]

[QUOTE=1KillerSS;8171995]I hate to say thank you for this, Its unfortunate for you, I did however learn a sh!t ton of information, and completely understand how you must have felt. While I have my opinion now, I would have been in your shoes for not researching the warranty card or owners manual.[/QUOTE

Wanna say thanks also for this thread i guess we should not post nothing about if we took our car to the track kinda blows but oo well]

[ForcFed93]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

I think that the best approach to not broadcast to folks (dealer especially) if you track your car. Also, make your car look as daily driver as possible if you bring it in. Any amount of pride you feel bragging about your lap times or experiences at the track will surely be lost when it affects the dealers opinion when evaluating your warranty situation. Abuse will still be a problem, but taking track use off the table seems to be the best approach to take.

For sure. When I took mine in for service a few months ago the adviser asked point blank if I ever track it (in the "this car is so sweet it's made for the track" kind of way). Yeah, sorry dude, but even if I did track it, I would never tell you.

[cornerspeed92]

Originally Posted by White_SS/RS

post #422 from thead link above


Clutch is good, actuating (hydraulic) system is not! Cornerspeed, I know you were going to upgrade the the master and slave, do you think they will warranty the labor on this issue and install your items?

No they aren't charging me for the up grades i bought. He said they had to take her apart anyway. My service manager is the one that told me about the 1LE, i saw the pic on the brochure feel madly in love and had ordered her less then a week later. Despite what some have said, yes the car should be warranted(not wearable items)and is. The service manager even reminded the field engineer"this is marketed as a track car"

[backeddy]

For those of you who are going to hide the "track" information for the service manager, I hope you have 2 sets of tires. I could tell in one second if the car has been on a track by the tires alone. I am sure they are "taught" to check this first thing.

[backeddy]

Cornerspeed, it is great to see that YOUR dealer is taking care of you!

[gajagfan]

Originally Posted by backeddy

For those of you who are going to hide the "track" information for the service manager, I hope you have 2 sets of tires. I could tell in one second if the car has been on a track by the tires alone. I am sure they are "taught" to check this first thing.

Just asking, but how are you going to tell the difference between a car that has been to the track and a car with 24K miles on it? I am not trying to be a smart ass, but a worn out tire is a worn out tire. I can see this being a possibility on a car with very low miles, but I do not think it applies to a car that is near the end of its original set of tires or on subsequent sets.

[CHMSC]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

Just asking, but how are you going to tell the difference between a car that has been to the track and a car with 24K miles on it? I am not trying to be a smart ass, but a worn out tire is a worn out tire. I can see this being a possibility on a car with very low miles, but I do not think it applies to a car that is near the end of its original set of tires or on subsequent sets.

Even if your wheels are spotless aka rubber free. Any car that has been driven on a track has tire wear that is not something you would get from driving on a road or even extremely spirited driving. It's easy to spot even thousands of miles of street driving after a track day. If you know what to look for its easy to spot.

[cornerspeed92]

Agreed

[strych9]

Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

Can you please comment on the Z28 warranty if possible please?

I'm trying to put 2+2 together here.


Actually, the Tremec on your 1LE is quite robust. I'd be hard-pressed if it were it at at fault in your case. The irony is, that if it turned out to be your transmission after all , a fault in the clutch system may have caused this chain reaction.

Of course, only speculation for now, let's see what your dealer says.

It's nearly identical to the ZL1 warranty, as described in my post you quoted.

[strych9]

Originally Posted by USMUCL

Well, since you obviously know everything, I guess this thread should be locked.

Sensing your sarcasm, I'm not sure why you're barking at me. What I said is 100% accurate. Part of my job was to weed out warranty claims that were non-defect. I'm not saying that I agree with the moral or principle of it, I'm just telling it like it is.

Are the disclaimers not in your owners manual? They are, and when the dealer knows that the car has been used in competition or abused by their own definition, they will find a way to deny the warranty. There's a lot of money at stake if they don't. Same goes for mods.

You can cry "Magnuson-Moss Act" all day long; if you do, bring a very good, very expensive lawyer with you. GM corporate has many. Even if they lose, you'll spend more in litigation than you would for paying for the repairs yourself.

I don't have a dog in this fight. I left the dealership career behind because every aspect of it is crooked. I do, however, like to supply what I know to other car guys that could use it.