[DiGiam]

Performance wise I'm sure the 18 will be plenty quick enough. It's just a really ugly car. They took a front end that took me a while to get used to and said here, try and like this shit buddy..lol.

[newmoon]

[QUOTE=DiGiam;9834657]Performance wise I'm sure the 18 will be plenty quick enough. It's just a really ugly car. They took a front end that took me a while to get used to and said here, try and like this.

Kinda like what Chevy has done with the 15 and up Corvette and 16 Camaro right. I remember when most in the Camaro5 forum didn't care for the changes.

[drew peacock]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Well that is why I don't go over there. I would get banned in a matter of minutes for what I would have to say. It isn't even worth my time.

and me
i've been banned from most mustang forums for telling them the truth about their joke cars.

not even had a warning on any camaro forum..mustang forum posters can be real touchy for some reason lol

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by drew peacock

and me
i've been banned from most mustang forums for telling them the truth about their joke cars.

not even had a warning on any camaro forum..mustang forum posters can be real touchy for some reason lol

Trust me, you're better off for it, lol!! I was over there for a while. And all they do is bicker and argue. The reason why is because Mustangs are soo damn cheap that anybody, even immature idiots, can get in the driver's seat of one. And that is why you have all those buffoons over there talking shit and arguing about everything. I was over there for a short period of time and then left and never went back.

[MEDISIN]

Originally Posted by newmoon

So your statement above basically gives no credit to Dodge actually selling vehicles to the public and only rental sales account for their number.

Yes, Dodge is selling vehicles to the public. I believe the point he was making was that 1 of 3 Challenger's sold go to Hertz, Thrifty, Budget. Challenger is ahead of Mustang is retail transaction prices but that has generally been the case.

2017 Retail ATP's YTD (JDPin)
Camaro: $40,645
Challenger: $37,298
Mustang: $36,298

2017 Retail Sales YTD (Total Sales YTD)
Camaro: 33,739 (36,567)
Mustang: 30,343 (44,608)
Challenger: 23,702 (35,910)

Originally Posted by newmoon

I guess Chevy has no rental sales correct or maybe the Camaros which are in the rental fleet nobody wants to rent them?

GM sells Camaro's to fleet too. The difference is, 6% of Camaro's sold YTD are to rental vs 34% Challengers sold YTD. Rental purchases are not based on customer demand, but "segment" and most price (including maintenance). If Thrifty can buy 100 V6 Mustangs for $19,000 or 100 V6 Camaro's for $19,001 they will buy the Mustangs every time and twice on Sunday.

Originally Posted by newmoon

The more interesting conversation should be why are the Camaro sales so poor when it is this world class performer.

Define "poor"? Camaro is leading in retail sales which is by the most important (profitable) market segment. Camaro is leading in retail transaction prices. But yes, Camaro sales to rental is "poor", on this we agree. Keep in mind the entire car market (non truck, SUV, CUV) is contracting so all three pony cars are feeling the squeeze.