[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by F1FTY

Wandered over to the Drag Racing section of Mustang6g. Have you guys? The 5.0 with mods does turn out some good times, including a 129mph stock longblock car. Maybe you've heard of that one before. Definitely much more competition than I was led to believe on here.

I judge it based off of what I see at the track and on the streets. There will always be someone claiming their bone stock this or that runs this or that...case in point, S550 GT owners claiming they run low 12s bone stock. I've heard it all, but I've seen much much less.

[Mustang Fanboy]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Not the TC, it's that 3.09 rear gear. That is obnoxious with the 8 speed and gets that pig moving out the hole quick. Which is why most races between the 6th gen and the SP autos is decided after the 60ft mark. But to your point if the Mustang was going from 8 to 10 speed, I would say there wouldn't be much improvement. But going 6 to 10 is definitely going to knock off a tenth or 2 if they use a decent rear gear with it.



MT got a 4 tenths improvement vs a 2011 in their 2015 SP review (A5 vs A8). That's on an unprepped surface. The 8 speed and 3.09 gear definitely made improvements.

Originally Posted by Richard0nee

Well said brother



Dude tune only 5.0's are not running neck to neck with a stock SS. How do I know? I had a 2014 5.0 with Lund tune, CAI and exhaust.. a stock SS will still gap me by 1-2 cars. I owned both, I know. No tune only will pick up the defecit of 55 lbs or torque, 20 HP, better suspension and stiffer/lighter chassis.

Now with that being said, a E85 tuned 5.0 may run very close to an SS..

Tune and CAI, the S550 cars are will run neck and neck.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Mustang Fanboy

Tune and CAI, the S550 cars are will run neck and neck.

LOL..with what? Certainly not with the SS. Unless by "neck and neck" you mean being half a second behind. Plus...didn't all you serious Mustang racers recently declare that cais do absolutely nothing and the stock box is better? LOL!!

[ChefBorOzzy]

Originally Posted by DiGiam

I still don't see why ford is hung up on the 5.0. The number one complaint of mustang drivers is lack of daily driving torque and having to wring it out to get it moving. The 10 speed should definitely help but it just not enough. Couple that with the most ****ed up refresh of any vehicle ive ever seen and it just falls short. rumor mill has it that the 19 Camaro will get the 10 speed and a 10hp 10tq bump. So my thinking is that this mustang will be a 12.5-12.6 car @114 and then the Camaro comes back with a 12.0@117 with the 19 year model.

I agree, the car feels gutless down low. I had a Mustang with 3.73 and if still felt weak down low, but it made the feeling at 4k+ RPM even better because of it. My truck has 3.31 with the 5.0 and it's fine if I apply a little bit of throttle. A bit more and the gearing just poops all over the engine. I think 10 speed should definitely help.

[init4fun]

It's not about how much power the Mustang makes. It's more about how it makes that power. If you've ever been unfortunate enough to have to spend any time in one of the current cars you know that they make all of their power in the upper RPM. Dump the clutch and wait, and wait, and wait oh now we're going, Shift, And wait, and wait, and wait.

Really a very irritating car to drive. The 10 speed will help but the stick cars will still be dogs. I don't see much to worry about here. Now the blower car will be a different story.

[DiGiam]

Originally Posted by Mustang Fanboy

Tune and CAI, the S550 cars are will run neck and neck.

You should really get out more. I ran a tune, cai, gt350 manifold car at the track. he ran 12.5. I ran 12.2 bone stock. 85 degrees out that day

[Mustang Fanboy]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Yep it's not scientific at all. I think it honestly makes a bigger difference on unprepped streets (like MT does). I think C&D uses an actual strip.

So just doing pure guess work, A10 = .1, Power bump= .1-.2

So expecting half a sec without something more is pure fantasy.

Again, I think you are underestimating what having 3 additional non OD gears is going to do (as well as a different converter). I think the power bump is spot on, but I think the transmission, converter, suspension and tires are going to give it an additional .3-.4 easy. Hell, just eliminating a small amount of wheel hop can reap huge rewards.

[Mustang Fanboy]

Originally Posted by DiGiam

You should really get out more. I ran a tune, cai, gt350 manifold car at the track. he ran 12.5. I ran 12.2 bone stock. 85 degrees out that day

Shitty driver, shitty tires or shitty tune.

I get out plenty.

[DiGiam]

Originally Posted by Mustang Fanboy

Again, I think you are underestimating what having 3 additional non OD gears is going to do (as well as a different converter). I think the power bump is spot on, but I think the transmission, converter, suspension and tires are going to give it an additional .3-.4 easy. Hell, just eliminating a small amount of wheel hop can reap huge rewards.

Ford will say it runs 12.6@114. hero runs in negative DA will be 12.2. I guarantee you that flex fuel will be the biggest bang for the buck on this new mustang and that mod will level the playing field between modded Camaros and modded mustangs until the 19 ym refresh from Camaro.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by Mustang Fanboy

You apparently have never done a transmission or converter swap. .3-.5 seconds can easily be had with just a converter.

Actually I have and this is not going to be a 8" race converter. This is going to be a daily driver converter. The GT might gain 2-3 tenths.

[Mustang Fanboy]

Originally Posted by init4fun

It's not about how much power the Mustang makes. It's more about how it makes that power. If you've ever been unfortunate enough to have to spend any time in one of the current cars you know that they make all of their power in the upper RPM. Dump the clutch and wait, and wait, and wait oh now we're going, Shift, And wait, and wait, and wait.

Really a very irritating car to drive. The 10 speed will help but the stick cars will still be dogs. I don't see much to worry about here. Now the blower car will be a different story.

I think this is now one of the desirable features of the coyote. I enjoy wringing out the RPM. You shift at 6500 RPM, I’ll shift at 7000. Throw a GT350 intake and tune and shift it at 8000RPM. Different strokes for different folks. I’ve had torque monsters before…and they are a blast too, but it’s just a different driving experience.

Also, I’m not sure what you were driving….but if you dump the clutch on any coyote mustang….you’ll get nothing but wheelspin.

[DiGiam]

Originally Posted by Mustang Fanboy

Shitty driver, shitty tires or shitty tune.

I get out plenty.

or shitty car. Just sayin. I had a 650hp whipple 03 cobra so I am by no means biased. Just stating what ive seen over and over.

[Mustang Fanboy]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Actually I have and this is not going to be a 8" race converter. This is going to be a daily driver converter. The GT might gain 2-3 tenths.

Keep dreaming my friend.

[ChefBorOzzy]

Good luck with the updates.