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02-20-2018, 02:59 PM | #44 |
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I cross shopped both, but a few things eventually turned me off from the Mustang.
The first was the exterior. I'm probably in the minority when I say the 6th gen Camaro looked so much better. I loved the slightly raised vette-like edges on the hood, and the overall aggressive wide stance of the car. It looked great from any angle. I see people staring at it in the parking lot and while I'm driving all too often. The mustang did look great in all the pics and videos of it, but when I finally saw one in person, I was disappointed. Bland is the best way to describe it. It's a safe look that has worked for Ford and their fans, but I wanted something that stood out and to me, it just didn't. The second is the tried and true LT1 motor. There's not much more to be said that hasn't been already. The Camaro has it down low where it's more fun. And it's built like a brick. Transmission quality. After reading the forums extensively, the general consensus is the TR-6060 in the Camaro is the more reliable manual tranny. It may not shift as smoothly, but it's more trustworthy in higher power applications. I'm not sure why Ford didn't use it in the GT. Regarding the interior, the instrument cluster and simplistic layout of the center console on the Camaro appealed to me more. Sure, there's an abundance of hard plastic, but I easily overlooked that as it seemed tough enough. If I wanted to be caressed, I'd have bought a Lexus. And maybe a keurig so as not to fall asleep. Also, Chevrolet's infotainment system was light years ahead in terms of responsiveness. And after reading several reviews and lurking around the forums, it's also a lot less buggy. Then there's the visibility question which has been beaten to death. I had no issues with it. Yes the Mustang was a little better, but not enough to matter. As for pricing and options. The Mustang when optioned out equally, was too expensive. The Camaro came out on top as the better value. What I got with the 1SS, would have cost more with the base Mustang. It's as simple as that. I'd be the first to admit I was slightly biased towards the Camaro from the very beginning, so take the above critique from that perspective. |
02-20-2018, 06:19 PM | #45 | |
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I was planning on a basic manual 1SS with the only option being active exhaust; over the past few months, I've had a change of mind and heart... After spending some seat time in several 2018 GTs, I'm thinking of putting down an order for a Hyper Blue/Kalahari 2SS manual with active exhaust (never really paid close attention to a 2SS, but I was rather surprised by the amount of standard equipment it comes with once I did...). On the flip side, I'm also considering ordering a Lightning Blue/Midnight Blue GT Premium manual with the level 1 PP, 401A interior package (loved the LCD cluster after seeing it in action in person...), active exhaust and spoiler delete. The Camaro is the less expensive choice by a bit over $2k with regards to invoice price; however, Chevy dealers in my area seem to be rather noncommittal at best to flat-out looking at me like I'm crazy at worst for even suggesting pricing out an SS at invoice. On the other hand, several Ford dealers in my area seem more than willing to accommodate me price-wise for a GT... Also considered several out-of-state dealers for both cars after seeing some rather eye-opening prices which turned out to be too good to be true (pulling standard dealer BS moves like stacking various discounts that are subject to eligibility, throwing in every single rebate/incentive even if they're not able to be stacked, not including the vehicle's destination fee in the sale price...) In either event, I'd be more than happy with a new SS or GT in my garage, a hell of a lot more than I am with my damn Challenger...
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02-21-2018, 08:20 AM | #46 |
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Lightning Blue on the Mustang is amazing. I love that color
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02-21-2018, 12:35 PM | #47 |
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Camaro incentives right now suck (near me). Since I don't have a Mustang (Conquest Bonus) or lease a GM vehicle there is really nothing. I am seeing $1-2.5K max off a $42-50K Camaro.
Meanwhile the Ford dealer is offering me $4-5K off with no negotiation. This is on a brand new redesigned 18. If Chevy would offer at least $5K off the Camaro's it would be nice |
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02-21-2018, 02:36 PM | #50 |
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02-21-2018, 02:45 PM | #51 |
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I was tempted to wait for PP2 (Mustang) but that is 6 months away and, to be honest, I don't like the Mustangs redesign (the 350R looks soooooo good it makes the refresh look horrid). The recent Motor Trend review did the Mustang no favours.
I was never a fan of the Camaro but that changed when the 5th gen Z/28 appeared. When reviews showed that the 2017 1LE surpassed the performance of the Z/28 I was sold. I should get my factory ordered 2SS 1LE sometime in March. |
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Ford dealers are definitely more willing to deal. I just don't get it, Camaro sales are way down you would think you could find leftover 2017's for $7-9k off MSRP. |
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http://www.bomninchevrolet.com Beware that they use bait and switch tactics, but you still come out on top even after the BS fees. Plus they have a good inventory. |
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02-21-2018, 10:12 PM | #55 | |
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Incentives in Feb are not very good. I might wait till March to see if they improve if I don't buy something else or just keep my C7. |
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