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Old 12-31-2014, 10:44 AM   #43
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Ok, back to fun.

Let's start a poll. Over under.................3,750 pounds. I say that because that is the number I would pick on the button.

So, 1SS manual, base trim OVER or UNDER

Not what you hope, but what you predict.
I'm saying under 3,750, but not by a whole lot.
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Old 12-31-2014, 11:00 AM   #44
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Ok, back to fun.

Let's start a poll. Over under.................3,750 pounds. I say that because that is the number I would pick on the button.

So, 1SS manual, base trim OVER or UNDER

Not what you hope, but what you predict.
I'll say under, 3725 lbs for the base ss..... fully loaded ss i'll say 3775 lbs
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Old 12-31-2014, 11:09 AM   #45
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I'd say under 3750, but hardly by much. 3750 is a good number though.
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Old 12-31-2014, 11:18 AM   #46
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Ok, back to fun.

Let's start a poll. Over under.................3,750 pounds. I say that because that is the number I would pick on the button.

So, 1SS manual, base trim OVER or UNDER

Not what you hope, but what you predict.

Under.
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Old 12-31-2014, 11:23 AM   #47
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Don't count on GM succeeding on any kind of efficient packaging. GM has been notorious for large cars with cramped interiors. GM is very hung up on high belt lines too which really makes a car feel smaller on the inside.

That certainly has not been a strong suit for GM, that's true. Sit in the former BMW 1 series coupe and in a 5th gen Camaro. They seem fairly comparable space wise on the interior, yet the 1 series almost looks like it half the size on the outside.
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Old 12-31-2014, 12:20 PM   #48
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I think 3695 lbs might be a safe assumption. A base 15 Mustang GT with a manual weights 3704 lbs and a couple within GM seem to be amused by that. I think its gonna be hard to guess anything as I feel the Camaro will not be on ATS or CTS version of Alpha. I think the version of Alpha for the Camaro will be its own thing.
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Old 12-31-2014, 12:38 PM   #49
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<3500 wishful thinking
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Old 12-31-2014, 01:16 PM   #50
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Wow.. What a douche.

Please stop pretending you are an educated car guy, or speak on their behalf. You dont. Spending thousands of dollars "building" fox bodies doesnt mean you what your doing either.

If you actually were a car guy, you would asses the entire package with their pro's and con's.. A solid rear axle has many pro's.. Obviously you wouldnt know.
Of course IRS has it's merits also
Speaking the truth makes me a douche? LOL
You must own an inferior solid axle car.
That's OK. Save up your pennies and just buy a 1997 Corvette or GTO.

I owned and built many solid axle cars. A solid axle is pathetic.
To argue otherwise is idiotic.
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Old 12-31-2014, 01:19 PM   #51
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I'm thinking right at 3750, possibly a little over.
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Old 12-31-2014, 01:57 PM   #52
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I like my Subaru

In for hoping under 3750, cause weight was my main reason for not ever wanting a 5th gen...
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Old 12-31-2014, 02:55 PM   #53
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You must own an inferior solid axle car.
To which application are you referring to SRA being inferior to IRS?

SRA is the preferred axle set up in off road and drag racing applications.

IRS is preferred for cars where road holding and handling performance, especially on uneven road surfaces, is a top priority

There is no overall "inferior" set up,it depends on the application.... there is a reason the IRS is replaced with a SRA on the 5th gen COPO camaros
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Old 12-31-2014, 02:57 PM   #54
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200 lbs lighter would look good in a brochure or car information sheet. Hope they can achieve this or better.
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Old 12-31-2014, 04:12 PM   #55
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The 2015 mustang is ugly as shit. Hopefully, the next camaro doesnt follow suit.
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Old 12-31-2014, 05:46 PM   #56
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To which application are you referring to SRA being inferior to IRS?

SRA is the preferred axle set up in off road and drag racing applications.

IRS is preferred for cars where road holding and handling performance, especially on uneven road surfaces, is a top priority

There is no overall "inferior" set up,it depends on the application.... there is a reason the IRS is replaced with a SRA on the 5th gen COPO camaros
Are you kidding?
There are IRS cars running 7's in the 1/4 mile and trucks are for off-roading, not cars.
The choice of a solid axle for the COPO is just like every questionable decision made GM: it was based on saving money.

Regardless, YES, Solid Rear Axle is still inferior to a IRS.
To argue against that is just plain stupid.
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