[fradaj]

Is there any possibility that there may not be a V8 Camaro? That ATS-V engine sounds pretty mean, especially in a "lighter" Camaro.

[Autonaut]

Originally Posted by fradaj

Is there any possibility that there may not be a V8 Camaro? That ATS-V engine sounds pretty mean, especially in a "lighter" Camaro.

Slim..

Very slim!

I think GM is "forced" to use at least one V8.. Camaro is USA. V8's are USA. Anything less than 8 cylinders will have people chasing GM's executives down with pitchforks.
Their competitors use V8's.

It is more likely GM would test the fields by releasing a TTV6 edition camaro. And then slowly prepare is buyers for the future when emmisions will have killed anything but turbo 4 bangers in sub 3300lbs camaro's.. Or hybrids for that matter.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by fradaj

Is there any possibility that there may not be a V8 Camaro? That ATS-V engine sounds pretty mean, especially in a "lighter" Camaro.

No.

[MBS]

Originally Posted by fradaj

Is there any possibility that there may not be a V8 Camaro? That ATS-V engine sounds pretty mean, especially in a "lighter" Camaro.

No there will always be a V8 , But that doesnt necessarily mean we wont see the twin turbo in the Camaro

[Autonaut]

Originally Posted by MBS

No there will always be a V8 , But that doesnt necessarily mean we wont see the twin turbo in the Camaro

Not necessarily.

GM could very well be forced to make a hybrid, EV version, og turboed 4/6 banger.. It all depends on emissions and how the pushrod V8 will do in the future.

GM might have to shut the camaro down if they cant use a v8 in it. And then wait and see if their custumors start demanding a return while being satisfied the camaro will have to do what everybody else is doing. Downsizing. More efficient drivetrains. Electric motors.

I for one am hoping the camless engines Konigsegg are experimenting with will get a breakthrough.
An engine with no cam/cams is the best possible outcome for the combustion engine. Electric valves can open and close faster and are theoretically superior to cammed engines in every possible ways.
Imagine the tuning abilities of such engine

Go google it. It is very exciting.

[LesserO2Evils]

5.9 Cummins -> 6.7
6.0 Pstroke -> 6.7
4.6GT -> 5.0
5.4GT500 -> 5.8
6.0LS2 ->6.2LS3
hemi ->Hemi ->HEMI
GM has retained 6.2L engine since 07.

This is just off of the top of my head over the past 5-10yrs. I do not see any downsizing in the American performance market(I included diesel bc that is just a large of a performance market as this is, both for work and recreation). Sure, there will be ALTERNATIVES offered(V6,I4, etc...) but the V8, in the AMERICAN performance culture will go nowhere for a long time. I would not worry about loosing a V8 anytime soon. However, I would worry about over regulation and 'daddy modes', which may neuter our beloved powerhouses. Plus this Onstar mess. Big Brother is watching!

[MrChrisLS3]

Originally Posted by MBS

No there will always be a V8 , But that doesnt necessarily mean we wont see the twin turbo in the Camaro

I agree. But with the ever increasing push for fuel economy and emission standards, I wonder if the TTV6 becomes the Mass produced SS, and then the ZL1/Z28 gets the LT4 or similar.

I just throw this out there because GM sells a lot more Camaro's than it does Corvettes. This being the case, and needing to conform to CAFE standards, they may start saving the V8's for the smaller production cars. Although, I personally don't know what if any difference there might be in the mpg/emission ratings between the LT1 and the TTV6.

But really, I guess it's all going to come down to production cost and marketing research. A lot of the Cadillac buyers (aka BMW cross shoppers) will be just fine with a TTV6 whereas many Camaro fans (like me) are just old school hot rodders that just like the old pushrod V8.

But yeah, for the money, the ATS TTV6 is one heck of a car.

[Bhobbs]

If mileage is a concern, the Camaro wouldn't get the TTV6. It doesn't get any better mileage than the V8s do.

[MrChrisLS3]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

If mileage is a concern, the Camaro wouldn't get the TTV6. It doesn't get any better mileage than the V8s do.

Yeah, you're probably right. Especially with AFM in the LT1.

[Destructo09]

Originally Posted by Autonaut

Exatcly.. Being a manual transmission makes it even more impressive. Check the video once again and notice how long he takes to shift the car. With an 8speed auto the ATS-V will be mindblowingly fast!

That seemed about like a normal time for a 1-2 shift to me, I can't shift my TR-6060 much faster than that.

True statement on the 8 speed though, it should make it pickup a couple tenths maybe.

Autos are so much better these days than they used to me, almost every car now the autos get better MPGs and also better 0-60 times.

It's just not the same though rowing through some gears, lol. The auto is really only more beneficial in the straight line stuff, they will be pretty much even I think on a road course. Autocross might depend on the course setup and gearing.

[Destructo09]

I did some digging and the original TT 3.6 V6 used in the cadillac lineup in 2014 weight 485 lbs, the LT1 weights 465 lbs, so it's lighter, but 20 lbs doesn't equate to much. I'm not sure that takes into account any extra tubing or intercoolers.

[Autonaut]

Originally Posted by Destructo09

That seemed about like a normal time for a 1-2 shift to me, I can't shift my TR-6060 much faster than that.

True statement on the 8 speed though, it should make it pickup a couple tenths maybe.

Autos are so much better these days than they used to me, almost every car now the autos get better MPGs and also better 0-60 times.

It's just not the same though rowing through some gears, lol. The auto is really only more beneficial in the straight line stuff, they will be pretty much even I think on a road course. Autocross might depend on the course setup and gearing.

From 2nd to 3 gear - i could have texted my mom saying i'll come visit her for christmas. And she could have texted me back: not unless you drive a V8.

Just kidding. Somehow, it seemed to go slower the previous times i watched it

[fradaj]

Originally Posted by Destructo09

I did some digging and the original TT 3.6 V6 used in the cadillac lineup in 2014 weight 485 lbs, the LT1 weights 465 lbs, so it's lighter, but 20 lbs doesn't equate to much. I'm not sure that takes into account any extra tubing or intercoolers.

That is interesting info, I will take the lighter V8 over a TT V6.

[ssrs2lt]

super fast!