Proud owner of #53 CE ZL1 aka Panther need some advice

motorhead-mwc- · 10-12-2023, 07:48 AM

Hello every1,
Excited to share my journey with #53 Panther and get some feedback from you all. Little intro, I am a GM fanatic that decided to get a job at a GM dealer 12 years ago. Started as a mechanic and worked my way into sales to feed my addiction.
I focus on documenting everything about the car purchase process and how to personalize your car to be an extension of who you are. I drive my cars and plan on getting fully immersed in the Camaro culture.

Panther is currently getting wrapped in xpel ppf and thanks to the people who commented on my youtube video I did put gloss accents to create a healthy amount of contrast. Below is a photo of the ppf on the fender showing you the difference between the matte paint and the ppf. Its important to note that the ppf is still wet and has not set. Apparently it will get darker which should make it a perfect match. This will be good for folks who only wrap the front end if it is true. Will see the final product on monday

Before I took it to get protected I was able to go through a tank of 93 listening to the Black Keys and barely made it back home with only 190 mi on the odometer lol

Initially I was eager to look at Michelin pilot sport 4s like its fancy pants sister has but right away realized its a 19 in the front on it and we have a 20 (and dont make a 20 in the front). After driving it in the back roads in break in conditions I was impressed with how much grip the supercars had over the AS3. I found that with my 16 SS the AS3 would chirp under any amount of torque and the compound was far too hard for my liking. Having a highwing also helps.
QUESTION #1: have you guys swapped your GY for conti or mich or kept oem after you burned through your orig set?

Question #2: IS michimoto still the go to for a maro catch can?

I have more questions but I don't want to make this too long winded. If you want to see my first episode on Panther here is the link

https://youtu.be/HIxIOpr3rXo?si=DCex93QPkfT5fhQ_

CTRifecta · 10-12-2023, 08:24 AM

Congrats! Very special car u have.

Swapping tires out is a personal preference, however I would not touch the engine or mod it, even with something as simple as a catch can. Just keep the damn thing stock, you'll be fine and most importantly you'll retain the value.

Just my 0.02

Vigilante375 · 10-12-2023, 08:44 AM

#1 - Do you plan on driving the car in rain or any rain? Then swap out the stock Goodyears for something like the MPS4S or P Zero, etc. They are much better suited to drive in the rain and give good grip in all cases over the stock Goodyear. When the Goodyear SC3/SC3r are properly warmed up, they out grip ANY street tire in cornering grip. They are a road course focused tire and have the tread life to match.

#2 - Elite and Mightmouse are the most common ones people go with.

I would also invest in a expansion tank. Since GM didn't include one with the ZL1 and you can get air in the line that'll cause a reduction in power. There are many out there but the most simple one, I believe, is the ADM tank from LSA conversion which I have on my ZL1 for years and has been used on a road course for years with no issues.

SwL_Wildcat · 10-12-2023, 09:05 AM

I'm super curious how the PPF is going to turn out. Did you decide to use the stealth on the glossy parts?
I can't comment on tires as every vehicle I have owned in the last 30 years has been 4x4 with M/T tires. It's nice being out of that environment now.
I'll definitely keep my car stock. No headers, no tunes. Something that is easily reversible with no holes drilled or modifications to the car might be OK.

motorhead-mwc- · 10-12-2023, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CTRifecta

Congrats! Very special car u have.

Swapping tires out is a personal preference, however I would not touch the engine or mod it, even with something as simple as a catch can. Just keep the damn thing stock, you'll be fine and most importantly you'll retain the value.

Just my 0.02

Yeah no open heart surgery for Panther, I agree

motorhead-mwc- · 10-12-2023, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante375

#1 - Do you plan on driving the car in rain or any rain? Then swap out the stock Goodyears for something like the MPS4S or P Zero, etc. They are much better suited to drive in the rain and give good grip in all cases over the stock Goodyear. When the Goodyear SC3/SC3r are properly warmed up, they out grip ANY street tire in cornering grip. They are a road course focused tire and have the tread life to match.

#2 - Elite and Mightmouse are the most common ones people go with.

I would also invest in a expansion tank. Since GM didn't include one with the ZL1 and you can get air in the line that'll cause a reduction in power. There are many out there but the most simple one, I believe, is the ADM tank from LSA conversion which I have on my ZL1 for years and has been used on a road course for years with no issues.

This was what my gut thought was the characteristics of the Supersport and yeah a more well rounded tire is what I am looking for over lateral grip. Having said that, this will be more of a weekend warrior and I will daily drive my C7 more then this. My main concen is the Lifecyle of this Goodyear.

Amazing intel. Much appreciated

motorhead-mwc- · 10-12-2023, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SwL_Wildcat

I'm super curious how the PPF is going to turn out. Did you decide to use the stealth on the glossy parts?
I can't comment on tires as every vehicle I have owned in the last 30 years has been 4x4 with M/T tires. It's nice being out of that environment now.
I'll definitely keep my car stock. No headers, no tunes. Something that is easily reversible with no holes drilled or modifications to the car might be OK.

Will be sure to keep you informed. I had an overwhelming response to keep the gloss components gloss with the PPF so I abided to do this, thanks for commenting.

Vigilante375 · 10-12-2023, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead-mwc-

This was what my gut thought was the characteristics of the Supersport and yeah a more well rounded tire is what I am looking for over lateral grip. Having said that, this will be more of a weekend warrior and I will daily drive my C7 more then this. My main concen is the Lifecyle of this Goodyear.

Amazing intel. Much appreciated

Well do you need lateral grip in this car. You don't need to go out and get some cheap tires for sure. MPS4S are the tires everyone goes for but I'm on my 2nd set of P Zero tires and they have done well. Either one is great and will last you 30k or more miles easily.

The life cycle of the SC3 is maybe 8k miles but I've heard some people say they've gotten up to 10k. The SC3r is 50% less than that.

There's plenty of info on this site so just do some searching because it's been asked more than once on here.

FarmerFran · 10-12-2023, 03:12 PM

Serious question...do you have a picture of the watch?

CalgaryZL1 · 10-12-2023, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FarmerFran

Serious question...do you have a picture of the watch?

He hasn’t received his watch or is carbon fiber gas cap yet I’m guessing the watch and other paraphernalia will come in the mail

GearheadSS · 10-12-2023, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FarmerFran

Serious question...do you have a picture of the watch?

The watches will come later, likely mailed to each customer that purchases the cars.

ZX-10R · 10-12-2023, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead-mwc-

Question #2: IS michimoto still the go to for a maro catch can?

No, that can is near worthless.

You want the Elite Engineering "Ultra" GM - it is the largest and most efficient can on the market and I've essentially tried them all

https://eliteengineeringusa.com/e2-x-catch-cans/

How much was the Panther?

willzilla · 10-12-2023, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead-mwc-

Question #2: IS michimoto still the go to for a maro catch can?
https://youtu.be/HIxIOpr3rXo?si=DCex93QPkfT5fhQ_

I went with the Elite Engineering e2-x Ultra catch can as another mentioned.

Gen6cyl · 10-12-2023, 06:15 PM

Opinions on the Tracy Lewis occ.

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10-12-2023, 07:48 AM	#1
motorhead-mwc- Cars and Crosbie Drives: 16 1SS / 24 ZL1 CE Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: London Canada Posts: 23	Proud owner of #53 CE ZL1 aka Panther need some advice Hello every1, Excited to share my journey with #53 Panther and get some feedback from you all. Little intro, I am a GM fanatic that decided to get a job at a GM dealer 12 years ago. Started as a mechanic and worked my way into sales to feed my addiction. I focus on documenting everything about the car purchase process and how to personalize your car to be an extension of who you are. I drive my cars and plan on getting fully immersed in the Camaro culture. Panther is currently getting wrapped in xpel ppf and thanks to the people who commented on my youtube video I did put gloss accents to create a healthy amount of contrast. Below is a photo of the ppf on the fender showing you the difference between the matte paint and the ppf. Its important to note that the ppf is still wet and has not set. Apparently it will get darker which should make it a perfect match. This will be good for folks who only wrap the front end if it is true. Will see the final product on monday Before I took it to get protected I was able to go through a tank of 93 listening to the Black Keys and barely made it back home with only 190 mi on the odometer lol Initially I was eager to look at Michelin pilot sport 4s like its fancy pants sister has but right away realized its a 19 in the front on it and we have a 20 (and dont make a 20 in the front). After driving it in the back roads in break in conditions I was impressed with how much grip the supercars had over the AS3. I found that with my 16 SS the AS3 would chirp under any amount of torque and the compound was far too hard for my liking. Having a highwing also helps. QUESTION #1: have you guys swapped your GY for conti or mich or kept oem after you burned through your orig set? Question #2: IS michimoto still the go to for a maro catch can? I have more questions but I don't want to make this too long winded. If you want to see my first episode on Panther here is the link https://youtu.be/HIxIOpr3rXo?si=DCex93QPkfT5fhQ_ Attached Images __________________ Live and breathe in the Automotive world. Proud GM emp and owner of a 6th gen

10-12-2023, 08:24 AM	#2
CTRifecta Drives: 2SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2023 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 320	Congrats! Very special car u have. Swapping tires out is a personal preference, however I would not touch the engine or mod it, even with something as simple as a catch can. Just keep the damn thing stock, you'll be fine and most importantly you'll retain the value. Just my 0.02 __________________ 2024 2SS 1LE \| 6MT \| Riverside Blue 1100 - Order submitted - 7/12/23 2000 - Order accepted - 8/22/23 Vehicle Built (per chevy chat bot) - 10/10/23 Window sticker available online - 11/4/23 Arrived at dealership - 11/10/23

10-12-2023, 08:44 AM	#3
Vigilante375 Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,370	#1 - Do you plan on driving the car in rain or any rain? Then swap out the stock Goodyears for something like the MPS4S or P Zero, etc. They are much better suited to drive in the rain and give good grip in all cases over the stock Goodyear. When the Goodyear SC3/SC3r are properly warmed up, they out grip ANY street tire in cornering grip. They are a road course focused tire and have the tread life to match. #2 - Elite and Mightmouse are the most common ones people go with. I would also invest in a expansion tank. Since GM didn't include one with the ZL1 and you can get air in the line that'll cause a reduction in power. There are many out there but the most simple one, I believe, is the ADM tank from LSA conversion which I have on my ZL1 for years and has been used on a road course for years with no issues.

10-12-2023, 09:05 AM	#4
SwL_Wildcat Drives: 2024 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: Campbell River, BC, Canada Eh! Posts: 375	I'm super curious how the PPF is going to turn out. Did you decide to use the stealth on the glossy parts? I can't comment on tires as every vehicle I have owned in the last 30 years has been 4x4 with M/T tires. It's nice being out of that environment now. I'll definitely keep my car stock. No headers, no tunes. Something that is easily reversible with no holes drilled or modifications to the car might be OK.

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