[motorhead]

Originally Posted by dray

I agree. Foreign auto makers may be assembling cars over here and employing Americans, but where are the profits going?

They feed the economy no matter what GEO gets rich or where they call home. Chevys are built all over the world along with all the other makes. Where is your cell phone from? If it’s a Samsung, it’s Korean. iPhones are foreign along with just about everything we own.

[MrRuss]

As a long time car guy, I also thought that Kia/Hyundai were coming up in the world. In 2016 my wife wanted a new SUV and we both liked the looks of the '16 Hyundai Tucsan. We wanted all the bells and whistles so got a Tucsan Limited with Ultimate package. Very nice and lots of tech, a 1.6L Turbo (meh) and 7-speed dual clutch auto. Well we only had it 10 days and the tranny failed 4 times and to the dealer it went and sat, and sat. Found out it was a very common problem and Hyundai was still trying to figure it out. After over a month I had had enough and made them buy it back. Thought about a Mazda CX-5 as I already had a Mazda 6 for a few years and it was flawless but the CX-5 had too little options even in the GT trim. Checked out a new CX-9 and was blow away by the level of luxury in the GT and Signature trim. Got the GT because Soul Red did not come in the Signature trim. Been extremely happy with it since.

It will be a long time before I consider the Korean brands again.

[MackSteelPrivateEye]

Originally Posted by motorhead

They feed the economy no matter what GEO gets rich or where they call home. Chevys are built all over the world along with all the other makes. Where is your cell phone from? If it’s a Samsung, it’s Korean. iPhones are foreign along with just about everything we own.

I'd buy an American Cell phone if I could. We have no choice but to now buy a Korean phone. Some would be happy with no choice but to buy a foreign car. I don't fall into that category.

[MrRuss]

Originally Posted by MrRuss

As a long time car guy, I also thought that Kia/Hyundai were coming up in the world. In 2016 my wife wanted a new SUV and we both liked the looks of the '16 Hyundai Tucsan. We wanted all the bells and whistles so got a Tucsan Limited with Ultimate package. Very nice and lots of tech, a 1.6L Turbo (meh) and 7-speed dual clutch auto. Well we only had it 10 days and the tranny failed 4 times and to the dealer it went and sat, and sat. Found out it was a very common problem and Hyundai was still trying to figure it out. After over a month I had had enough and made them buy it back. Thought about a Mazda CX-5 as I already had a Mazda 6 for a few years and it was flawless but the CX-5 had too little options even in the GT trim. Checked out a new CX-9 and was blow away by the level of luxury in the GT and Signature trim. Got the GT because Soul Red did not come in the Signature trim. Been extremely happy with it since.

It will be a long time before I consider the Korean brands again.

Yes, I know my sig. says '18 CX-9. That is because the '16 was totaled in an accident last fall and we promptly went out and got another one exactly the same, color, trim.... That's how much we liked it...

[MrRuss]

I'm not as hung up on "only buy American" as I used to be. When I am laying down my hard earned cash, I want the best quality I can afford.

[V8RWD]

Originally Posted by motorhead

They feed the economy no matter what GEO gets rich or where they call home. Chevys are built all over the world along with all the other makes. Where is your cell phone from? If it’s a Samsung, it’s Korean. iPhones are foreign along with just about everything we own.

Not only that, how about the components?

Obvious ones...

BREMBO Brakes - Italy (but made in who knows where)
RECARO Brakes - Germany (but made in who knows where)
PHILLIPS HID - Germany
etc

Then there's the little stuff...

License plate bulb, in my 2017, was made by Toshiba (Japan).
GM Dark Tail lamp, made by Magna, was made in Canada.

This is why they say Global Economy.

[V8RWD]

Originally Posted by MackSteelPrivateEye

I'd buy an American Cell phone if I could. We have no choice but to now buy a Korean phone. Some would be happy with no choice but to buy a foreign car. I don't fall into that category.

You can buy American phones. Motorola was making them.

But thanks to people that didn't support them, they are now outsourced.

https://www.techradar.com/news/phone...-texas-1251223

[dray]

Originally Posted by V8RWD

You can buy American phones. Motorola was making them.

But thanks to people that didn't support them, they are now outsourced.

https://www.techradar.com/news/phone...-texas-1251223

I have a Moto X.

[AJL13]

I was incredibly impressed with the Stinger GT and was ready to pull the trigger until I saw the curb weight in the final specs, and saw it turn a slower time around willow springs than the Focus ST.

[Navigator]

Originally Posted by MackSteelPrivateEye

I put my money in America over any Korean Kar.

Haven't seen stats on the Stinger yet but certain Kia cars like the Optima have more American-sourced parts (75%) than the Camaro (54%) or Mustang (53%). Plenty of "foreign" models have more parts/assembly here than "domestic" models. I get that Kia is headquartered overseas, but I'm guessing the "Buy American" crowd would rather support blue collar assembly workers, and in many cases, the "foreign" brands employ more assembly workers here than their American counterparts.

[Tenfive]

if you own a ford , SELL it !
If you own a KIA hide it , or hide in it , lol.

love my 1ss

[Soleil]

[camaro5]

Originally Posted by solarstingray

why not compare apples to apples? a 2018 mustang gt verse a 2018 stinger,

the stinger is a very heavy car

RWD Stinger

3,611 (2.0T)

3,829 (3.3TT)
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3,926 ZL1

3,685 SS

144lb difference Stinger GT to Camaro SS

So, if the Stinger is a very heavy car - the Camaro SS is? Really quite heavy?

ZL1 must be super colossal heavy.
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As far as Kia quality - facts rule:

[Tenfive]

Originally Posted by camaro5

RWD Stinger

3,611 (2.0T)

3,829 (3.3TT)
-----------------------

3,926 ZL1

3,685 SS

144lb difference Stinger GT to Camaro SS

So, if the Stinger is a very heavy car - the Camaro SS is? Really quite heavy?

ZL1 must be super colossal heavy.
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As far as Kia quality - facts rule:

and My convertible must be a total tank. The day I lose to a kia is the day hell freezes over and no longer become a chevy fan