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If you are coming from years of manual transmission driving, the shift lever will most likely feel more natural to you. It's about as close as you can make driving an automatic feel like driving a car with a stick. Not sure, but I have a sneaking suspicion that shift-lever-commanded shifts might feel a little less "delayed" compared to using the paddles, even if the actual shift time remains the same. Norm
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02-07-2021, 09:51 AM | #31 | |
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02-07-2021, 11:35 AM | #32 |
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Turbo and/or making big hp: Auto.
DD in traffic, or medical condition that warrants: Auto. Everything else: M6 for me. Rebuilding my auto tranny in the tt C6 is twice the cost as an M6 to hold the same amount of power. |
02-07-2021, 11:57 AM | #33 | |
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With the paddles I found, on the SS & the Z, I had to hit the paddle a few hundred RPM sooner than my target RPM to stay off the rev-limiter. With soooo many gears it’s a lot of time my focus is on that. The HUD display helps now though. In a straight line the shift lever would be fine. In corners the paddles are preferred. The shifting in the programming is so tight I have actually gotten used not even bothering using manual mode unless putting around town to hold out the gears to hear the exhaust or select a gear for passing. In practical application I can roll out & ease into the throttle, increasing throttle as it goes through the gears, hitting WOT by about 40mph & within seconds I’m eclipsing 100mph. The tranny does it’s thing & I can focus on keeping it straight. Below that & the traction control is stepping in quite often. Last edited by gtfoxy; 02-07-2021 at 12:08 PM. |
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02-07-2021, 12:18 PM | #34 |
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The A10 is a phenomenal tranny, but I personally feel it needs to be tuned with a performance mode that’s selectable on or off, including at low speeds. I drive a lot of small, twisty, hilly back roads (for enjoyment), between 15MPH - 60MPH. The car is always looking for the next up shift, or down shift, which it does with Cadillac type smoothness and efficiency. To me, that’s not a sporty / engaging experience, at light throttle. I’ve tried the paddles, and that works well, but, I occasionally have the music on at a stop light / sign and forget about being in manual mode..(oops). Not to mention, there’s a lot of paddle slapping when you have 10 gears and you want to hold 3K-4K rpm, at highly variable speeds on the twisty’s. I’d love for the car to do this work for me, automatically.
The above would be my only negative critique of the A10. And, I wouldn’t go back to manual over this Auto. At some point, I’ll get a tune to modify shift points in either sport and or track mode(s), to fit my specific needs. Last edited by Chutzpah; 02-07-2021 at 12:46 PM. |
02-07-2021, 12:39 PM | #35 | |
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So I sold my 2SS privately (in 2 days LOL) and bought a $70K sticker A10 ZL1. That A10 is the most awesome automatic I have ever driven. It will come out to play banging up/down shifting with just a tap on the throttle. Fun. But I did not want to torch my ZL1s resale value so no tune for me. However with some tires and a Rotofab I got into the 11.1s. Nice fun at first. But drag racing became boring. All I had to do was get a good launch, stomp on the throttle and hang on. Yawn. And a 10 second car is a waste on the street (to me). You cannot let it all hang out without risking yours and others lives. So I dropped off the ZL1 at CarMax for $51K (much more than any dealer would give me on a trade) and ordered a loaded M6 LT1. The LX 5.0 and Road Runner vibe was a big draw for me. And I really missed my 2SS. I even tried to swap my ZL1 with the guy that bought my SS. No way was he giving up that M6 SS. He and his wife loved tearing up Autocross tracks with it. After all that I ordered a loaded M6 LT1 and I paid just about the exact price I paid for my 2011 M6 SS. My LT1 is twice the sports/muscle car that SS was. You can bury me in it. Whatever you do OP get an SS with the Recaros. And the TREMEC M6 in the SS will make you forget all about the clunky C7 M7. Or so I have heard from owners. I only took one test drive in one. You will love the Tremec and even the stock shifter is really good.
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02-07-2021, 01:36 PM | #37 |
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If you love to work the clutch and love to shift and not concerned about ever drag racing or roll racing, stick with the manual. Also AFM kind of softens the love for the A10 when used in auto mode. To fully exploit the like or love for the A10 you need to have AFM tuned out so you can drive in auto mode and enjoy it, otherwise you (like me) need to drive in manual mode all the time . I would rather drive a 6 or 7 speed manual trans especially around town than drive a A10 in manual mode around town. The manual cars have no AFM
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Using the level is a bit weird because you still aren't using an H-pattern shifter, and depending on the manufacturer, the direction you push/pull the shifter in to upshift/downshift in is different. Very confusing if you are new to a car. Most paddle shifters seem to be consistent (unless you use the weird ones in some of the older Mazdas). For the most part, I stick with the automatic mode unless I am doing very spirited driving. Quote:
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So, OP did you buy that EV yet?
If not, let me tell you -- it is faster, smoother, less maintenance, easier to drive, feels just like a torquey V8 - hell you cannot go wrong! |
02-07-2021, 11:13 PM | #41 |
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With the auto your just riding in the car has to be a manual to be driven... had the m6 in the 1le for 7 years just switched to the a10 1le. Great car but not the same experience. After 3 months I'm just starting to trust it.
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