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Old 04-13-2013, 01:55 PM   #617
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Would you care if offering the Turbo-4 meant a price increase on the V8?
No one has suggested that will happen. It's irrelevant.
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Old 04-13-2013, 04:44 PM   #618
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my 2 cents... the reason for owning any pony car, or any cool car for that matter, is to look cool. As long as they have a great body style like they do I predict there will be a market for a 4 cyl. How ever I strongly believe there would have to be significant distinction between 4, 6, and 8 cyl body types or it would discourage the higher performance buyers.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:06 PM   #619
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Anyone remember the Vega, The idea of buying an inexpensive car and customizing the way you want.... is the dream?
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:10 PM   #620
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my 2 cents... the reason for owning any pony car, or any cool car for that matter, is to look cool. As long as they have a great body style like they do I predict there will be a market for a 4 cyl. How ever I strongly believe there would have to be significant distinction between 4, 6, and 8 cyl body types or it would discourage the higher performance buyers.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:50 PM   #621
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Anyone remember the Vega, The idea of buying an inexpensive car and customizing the way you want.... is the dream?
Please don't remind me. Had a 1975 looked like the top photo. Loved oil not to mention the rust.
Now if it came with a small block
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:02 PM   #622
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Please don't remind me. Had a 1975 looked like the top photo. Loved oil not to mention the rust.
Now if it came with a small block
My first memories in high school...borrowing my brother's Vega for a Friday night and getting a quart of oil for about a $1...and filling her up with about $ 5 in gas.

We had dreams of hoisting the motor out and dropping a 327 ....then the 455 out of Ma's Grand Ville....
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:53 PM   #623
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my 2 cents... the reason for owning any pony car, or any cool car for that matter, is to look cool. As long as they have a great body style like they do I predict there will be a market for a 4 cyl. How ever I strongly believe there would have to be significant distinction between 4, 6, and 8 cyl body types or it would discourage the higher performance buyers.
To each his own of course, but if the reason is only looks then you would be fine with a 4000lb car with a prius engine as long as it looks good right? You would advocate putting a 4 banger or an I3 in a 5th gen Camaro or a Challenger even?

Some people may feel that looks and MPG is enough. They MAKE cars for that-- they just shouldn't call them Camaro.

I for one (there may be other Camaro fans) would like a car with looks AND performance. MPG is secondary. I owned a 2010 V6 once. LOVED it and MODDED it, and drove heck out of it. Then I traded for an SS. I had Permagrin even on the LS V6! (And not because of mpg). The looks are cool, but I want go!
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That's my thinking too. Aren't there plenty of good looking, 4 cylinder cars already? The Camaro doesn't need to be sold with a 4 cylinder unless the car maker just wants to charge extra for 6 or 8 cylinders.

Remember, CAFE is averaged across the entire fleet. Individual models do not have to meet the CAFE average. So nothing impedes car makers from making 6 and 8 cylinder-only cars. There's only so many people who want a muscle/pony car anyway, and it's not like GM offers more than one now. We have one choice from Chevy, and if it gets ****ed up because they want to compete with hot hatchbacks, this thing will be a disaster. And I'll be buying used.
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:51 PM   #625
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I can't wait until GM/Chevy gives all of us a great surprise and drops in a Turbo 4 banger with 327hp/340tq in the 6th Gen Camaro and weighing in @ around 3,300lbs !!!! and wacth it run a 13.4 in the 1/4 mile !!!!!!!!!... YaY....
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:51 PM   #626
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I can't wait until GM/Chevy gives all of us a great surprise and drops in a Turbo 4 banger with 327hp/340tq in the 6th Gen Camaro and weighing in @ around 3,300lbs !!!! and wacth it run a 13.4 in the 1/4 mile !!!!!!!!!... YaY....



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Old 04-15-2013, 06:41 AM   #627
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I can't wait until GM/Chevy gives all of us a great surprise and drops in a Turbo 4 banger with 327hp/340tq in the 6th Gen Camaro and weighing in @ around 3,300lbs !!!! and wacth it run a 13.4 in the 1/4 mile !!!!!!!!!... YaY....
I thought speculation on the new platform had the car weighing in @ 3600 lbs. I'd say 13.8
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:30 AM   #628
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No thanks ..I'd rather see a weight reduction; the use of aluminum for example.

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Old 04-16-2013, 08:36 AM   #629
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I can't wait until GM/Chevy gives all of us a great surprise and drops in a Turbo 4 banger with 327hp/340tq in the 6th Gen Camaro and weighing in @ around 3,300lbs !!!! and wacth it run a 13.4 in the 1/4 mile !!!!!!!!!... YaY....
As much as I want to see a V6 option in the next gen, if this was the base engine there would be no reason for the V6 then. Unless they made the V6 the base engine, and something like this as an optional engine (which wouldn't surprise me at all. I think Ford may go this route with the Mustang)

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I thought speculation on the new platform had the car weighing in @ 3600 lbs. I'd say 13.8
Maybe with the V8 it MIGHT weigh around there, probably a tad less. But no, with a turbo 4 the 6th gen should weigh in at around 3,400 lbs if not under that. Look at the Cadillac ATS which is built on the same platform...its base car weighs under 3,400 lbs.
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No one has suggested that will happen. It's irrelevant.
Explain to me how it won't happen, assuming the new 4 will be base. How does a turbo-4, which will be more expensive than the V6, enter the lineup and not affect V6 and V8 pricing.....unless the 4 will be an extra cost option.

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That's my thinking too. Aren't there plenty of good looking, 4 cylinder cars already? The Camaro doesn't need to be sold with a 4 cylinder unless the car maker just wants to charge extra for 6 or 8 cylinders.




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As much as I want to see a V6 option in the next gen, if this was the base engine there would be no reason for the V6 then. Unless they made the V6 the base engine, and something like this as an optional engine (which wouldn't surprise me at all. I think Ford may go this route with the Mustang)
If they made the V6 the base engine for the same cost, and charged more for the more expensive 4, I would have no problem with offering the option.

Ford actually does this on multiple cars already, with the 2.0L Ecoboost being an extra cost option. Thing the worries me about the Camaro is GM has no precedent of offering such a thing. In every car where a 4-cyl or turbo-4 has entered the lineup, the V6 (if it even continued to be offered at all) became a premium option...more money this year for the same thing as last year.
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