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MNZL1 · 08-01-2023, 07:18 AM

Hi everyone

I’m considering buying a 2010 to SS with automatic and only 15,000 miles. I’m probably over researching this but I’ve read that the 2010 model you should avoid because of some engine and transmission problems. It is recommended that I should go with the 2011 or newer

Any help on this and your input would be greatly appreciated,

Thanks, Scott

xstuntman · 08-01-2023, 07:34 AM

I've made it a point to avoid GMs legendary AFM on its auto V8s.
Other than that I'd say blend door and extra grounds.

Low miles car.
What are they asking?
Accidents?

Arogg · 08-01-2023, 07:41 AM

I have a 2010 2SS/RS. LS3 M6. I'm sitting around 75k miles and its been the most reliable car I've ever owned. I know the AFM in the autos can be troublesome but I cant weigh in on that.

ADVMax · 08-01-2023, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arogg

I have a 2010 2SS/RS. LS3 M6. I'm sitting around 75k miles and its been the most reliable car I've ever owned. I know the AFM in the autos can be troublesome but I cant weigh in on that.

Yes. At almost 150K my 2010 2SS/RS has been rock solid. Blend door and a starter have been the extent of failures. I put a clutch in it about 2500 miles back, when I got the car with 62K on the clock I said I would clutch it at 150K whether it needed it or not. Clutch wasn’t worn out but it was time.

For the OP - you can get rid of the AFM “drop cylinders” function pretty cheap and easy. If the price is right go for it, low mileage gen 5’s are getting harder to find. Recently saw a news story that listed gen 5 Camaros as one of the least expensive to maintain newer muscle cars out there.

MNZL1 · 08-01-2023, 07:52 AM

Sorry for asking this but what is a AFM? How do I check for it.

I’m getting it for $24k. Very nice condition with no accidents

ADVMax · 08-01-2023, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNZL1

Sorry for asking this but what is a AFM? How do I check for it.

I’m getting it for $24k. Very nice condition with no accidents

Active Fuel Management - it shuts down cylinders by “disconnecting” the valve lifters and shutting off injectors on certain cylinders. The valve lifters on those cylinders are subject to fail. They can be replaced with non collapsible lifters, that with a cam change puts you into an LS3 basically. The automatic Camaro engines are coded L99 which is an active fuel management 6.2 liter engine.

Aqua Blue RS/SS · 08-01-2023, 08:02 AM

I wouldn't hesitate. I’ve owned 2 ‘10’s and both have been great cars. AFM is active fuel management, basically under light loads the computer drops the lifters on 4 cylinders and shuts fuel off to those cylinders to save fuel. It doesn’t save fuel, and the lifters are big time weak point and common failure point. They can be removed and AFM deleted. AFM only came on SS automatic cars. I wouldn’t avoid a nice V8 auto car just because of AFM, I would just put some cash aside to delete it asap. My current 2010 SS only has 4,000 miles on it. As said above, low mile 5th gen cars are getting harder to find.

ADVMax · 08-01-2023, 08:03 AM

AFM = A Fu**ing Mess!

Moto-Mojo · 08-01-2023, 08:23 AM

You can tune the AFM out and literally forget it was ever there. Sure don't have to worry about voiding the warranty on a 2010. Can't say if that helps the lifters last longer or not.

Mine's been gone so long it's only these threads that remind me I ever had AFM.

MNZL1 · 08-01-2023, 08:39 AM

So would it be better to go with a manual on a 2010 or just don’t worry about it.
Thanks again!

MSgt O · 08-01-2023, 08:49 AM

Buy it...if you want a 5th gen, buy it. its a good deal, no accidents and issues, buy it. The AFM is easily disabled with a tune, and if you want to ever put a cam in the car, you can change the lifters at that point as well! Autos are faster than manuals as well!!

gtstorey · 08-01-2023, 08:52 AM

The only real downgrade on the early cars is the less effective rear sway bar set up. And this really only comes into play if you are throwing the car into the curves pretty hard.

ariZona28 · 08-01-2023, 09:31 AM

If it's been well cared for and has a clean carfax I'd definitely think seriously about buying it. Check to see if the AC blows ice cold AND make sure the heat is toasty hot, this verifies good blend door function. Is it going to be a daily driver or hobby car? Plenty of good resources in this forum if you just want to maintain or MOD from mild to wild. Don't let the AFM or first year stuff bother you. PLENTY of excellent '10s running around.

MNZL1 · 08-01-2023, 09:37 AM

Thanks for all your input!! Would you install an AFM disabler? If so what one?

08-01-2023, 07:18 AM	#1
MNZL1 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Hot Wheels convert Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: MN Posts: 85	Should I buy a 2010 2SS with only 15k miles? Hi everyone I’m considering buying a 2010 to SS with automatic and only 15,000 miles. I’m probably over researching this but I’ve read that the 2010 model you should avoid because of some engine and transmission problems. It is recommended that I should go with the 2011 or newer Any help on this and your input would be greatly appreciated, Thanks, Scott

08-01-2023, 07:34 AM	#2
xstuntman Drives: 2012 Victory Red LFX Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: west central Texas Posts: 1,310	I've made it a point to avoid GMs legendary AFM on its auto V8s. Other than that I'd say blend door and extra grounds. Low miles car. What are they asking? Accidents? __________________ 2018 SS wheels, red Heritage grille, actual driving lights, ZL1 strut tower brace, GM Performance billet aluminum fuel door, front grille Bowtie delete, painted red rotors and calipers, 1/4 window American Flags, splash guards, AEM dry panel air filter.

08-01-2023, 07:41 AM	#3
Arogg A legend in his own mind Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 827	I have a 2010 2SS/RS. LS3 M6. I'm sitting around 75k miles and its been the most reliable car I've ever owned. I know the AFM in the autos can be troublesome but I cant weigh in on that. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS "The Mistress" Color matched OEM GFX / VIS Carbon Fiber Hood (absolute trash quality and customer service ) / Heritage Grille / 5% Windows / 30% Windshield tint with 5% visor strip / Tinted Exterior Lights / Streetfighter LA Spoiler / Morimoto XB LED fogs / LED sidemarkers / Airaid CAI / Hurst Short Throw / TSP LT's / No cats / No resonator / Corsa Xtreme Catback / Trifecta Tune / Factory amp replaced / 2 JL Audio 12's in the trunk / MRR 228 Wheels / BMR Springs / Moog Endlinks / R1 Concepts Rotors & Pads

08-01-2023, 08:02 AM	#7
Aqua Blue RS/SS Drives: ABM #93 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Lotaburger Posts: 2,695	I wouldn't hesitate. I’ve owned 2 ‘10’s and both have been great cars. AFM is active fuel management, basically under light loads the computer drops the lifters on 4 cylinders and shuts fuel off to those cylinders to save fuel. It doesn’t save fuel, and the lifters are big time weak point and common failure point. They can be removed and AFM deleted. AFM only came on SS automatic cars. I wouldn’t avoid a nice V8 auto car just because of AFM, I would just put some cash aside to delete it asap. My current 2010 SS only has 4,000 miles on it. As said above, low mile 5th gen cars are getting harder to find. __________________ ABM #2399 2SS/RS:SOLD ABM #93 2SS/RS Black Rally stripes, Titanium Interior 4,000 miles: GM GFX side skirts and diffuser waiting on paint, GM dovetail, GM heritage, RPI ZL1 style splitter. ‘87 IROC-Z Iroc blue. all original unmolested with 50K miles. Last edited by Aqua Blue RS/SS; 08-01-2023 at 09:33 AM.

08-01-2023, 08:23 AM	#9
Moto-Mojo Fast Cars and Old Guitars Drives: 2015 2SS RS (L99, baby!) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,974	You can tune the AFM out and literally forget it was ever there. Sure don't have to worry about voiding the warranty on a 2010. Can't say if that helps the lifters last longer or not. Mine's been gone so long it's only these threads that remind me I ever had AFM. __________________ “I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

08-01-2023, 07:52 AM	#5
MNZL1 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Hot Wheels convert Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: MN Posts: 85	Sorry for asking this but what is a AFM? How do I check for it. I’m getting it for $24k. Very nice condition with no accidents

08-01-2023, 08:03 AM	#8
ADVMax Sporting Foole Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Alabama Posts: 500	AFM = A Fu**ing Mess!

08-01-2023, 08:39 AM	#10
MNZL1 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Hot Wheels convert Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: MN Posts: 85	So would it be better to go with a manual on a 2010 or just don’t worry about it. Thanks again!

08-01-2023, 08:49 AM	#11
MSgt O Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Vert LS3/M6 Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Cheboygan, Michigan Posts: 660	Buy it...if you want a 5th gen, buy it. its a good deal, no accidents and issues, buy it. The AFM is easily disabled with a tune, and if you want to ever put a cam in the car, you can change the lifters at that point as well! Autos are faster than manuals as well!!

08-01-2023, 08:52 AM	#12
gtstorey Drives: 2010 Camaro SS2,L99, LSA SC Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 2,155	The only real downgrade on the early cars is the less effective rear sway bar set up. And this really only comes into play if you are throwing the car into the curves pretty hard.

08-01-2023, 09:31 AM	#13
ariZona28 Give speed a chance Drives: 2015 Camaro 2LS, 2015 Camaro Z/28 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Mesa, Az Posts: 2,234	If it's been well cared for and has a clean carfax I'd definitely think seriously about buying it. Check to see if the AC blows ice cold AND make sure the heat is toasty hot, this verifies good blend door function. Is it going to be a daily driver or hobby car? Plenty of good resources in this forum if you just want to maintain or MOD from mild to wild. Don't let the AFM or first year stuff bother you. PLENTY of excellent '10s running around. __________________ 2LS: a TREMENDOUS machine. Z/28: it's a BIT MORE POWERFUL, of course.

08-01-2023, 09:37 AM	#14
MNZL1 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Hot Wheels convert Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: MN Posts: 85	Thanks for all your input!! Would you install an AFM disabler? If so what one?