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Not to mention the fact that the Huracan is mid-engine with virtually all of its weight centered around the mid/rear of the car... It's a no-brainer it will win... we didnt even need the video..
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Why the heel are they making engines with more than 300hp if all you want to do is turn? Just make them lighter and you can turn all you want. My entire point was that the Corvette should come with 800+ hp. At the least as an option. GM is restricted to DOT regulations thus the tires they sell the car with however, the end user can put on whatever he chooses. The AWD comparison is just silly.
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https://youtu.be/efA-4UC59Wg https://youtu.be/6J8kqmn3lcY The 570s beats the demon from ANY rolling start. Has also beaten a heads/cam/headers C6 Z06, Huracan 610-4, 1000hp big turbo trans am, and a C5 with bolt-ons and Nitrous(150 Shot?). Definitely overpriced and UNDERPOWERED Euro Trash. HOWEVER, an 800hp Corvette wouldn’t be fighting for traction or just putting up numbers to put up numbers. The reason why the 570s and 720s pull away from these cars is that they start in low boost for traction and increase the boost at each upshift. Notice how at each shift, the McLarens pull away even harder. After 150mph, the car keeps accelerating at the same pace. It doesn’t drop off until you run out of gears. It’s genius. And on the topic of not handling 650hp(Z06) I received my May issue of Road and Track yesterday and they drove the ZR1 around NCM Motorsports Park. Here’s what Jack Baruth had to say: “If you like driving a Miata on a road course, you will like this. It’s that good.” Last edited by Quinten_33; 04-14-2018 at 02:12 PM. Reason: Forgot to quote |
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After the first half second? more like after the first .00000001 second it pulls away from everything.
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Dodge probably sells more 4,500 pound 707BHP Hellcats then Lotus sells 2,000 pound Elise. This is why BMW naming scheme puts the cheaper cars at lower numbers and the more expensive cars at higher numbers. In other words the BMW 2 series cost less then the BMW 7 series and why the BMW 320 cost less then the BMW 340. With that added space for more of your stuff comes more weight, and going from 300BHP and 800BHP suddenly your entire driveline has to get beefed up along with bigger/wider wheels and tires and brakes to slow everything down. That is how you go from a 2,200 pound 150BHP Miata to a 3,500 pound 460BHP Corvette and so on. |
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As it stands today the inexpensive Corvette is a world class car. It simply needs a chassis set up for all venues. And 800 hp
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Cherry picked data is great for trying to win arguments but when you look at all of the information out there you start to see a different picture painted. When one of the youtubers who owns a 2019 ZR1 manual car is able to pull a 10.9 stock and on stock tires with time to improve it should make one think. |
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the reason the 570s beats the demon is because it's mid engined. boost by gear is as old as the ecu You accelerate based on traction, and how much traction you get is dependent on how much of the percentage of the weight of the vehicle you can get on the driven wheels. When you accelerate your forcing weight transfer to the rear. The only time when you have 100% traction is either awd, or a rwd car doing a wheelie. The harder your accelerate in a rwd car, the more weight you transfer. It's a compound effect. This is exactly why hellcats and demons 1/4 mile times are all over the place. If you don't hook very well, you don't transfer weight well. This is a problem with nearly all front engined rwd cars. The only real solution is slicks. Mid engined and rear engined rwd vehicles already have a huge advantage over front engine, since they are starting with significantly more rear weight bias. This is why the 570s will beat a demon in nearly every scenario, especially on the street. |
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they aren't using the engine listed as that is only being used for the Caddys. 2021 vettes will have 800hp and hopefully an awd version in the near future. |
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