Opinion - is it totaled? - Page 2

Number 3 · 12-12-2021, 04:09 PM

LOL seriously. There is no frame to be bent.

classicrockr · 12-12-2021, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

LOL seriously. There is no frame to be bent.

No frame?

wavsine · 12-12-2021, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

LOL seriously. There is no frame to be bent.

LOL, everybody knows we are talking about the unibody. Yes, it can be straightened and no, it will never be as strong as before.

LT4Greg · 12-12-2021, 05:52 PM

Like was said, if the cost of repairs is more than the value of the car, then yes it will be a total. I know you don’t want to hear that but that’s the way Insurance companies operate. I would wait until the claims adjustor looks at it and go from there. Good luck and you could get a new Camaro to replace that one. At least the Camaro is still in production for maybe a couple more years.

avalonandl · 12-12-2021, 07:02 PM

I would say thats about 7k $ in repairs without knowing if the Convertible bracing/action parts are damaged.....

Number 3 · 12-12-2021, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by classicrockr

No frame?

No frame

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Originally Posted by wavsine

LOL, everybody knows we are talking about the unibody. Yes, it can be straightened and no, it will never be as strong as before.

Didn’t seem like it. When anyone says frame regarding a vehicle that has no frame, it comes across like people don’t know there is no frame.

hotlap · 12-12-2021, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

No frame

Didn’t seem like it. When anyone says frame regarding a vehicle that has no frame, it comes across like people don’t know there is no frame.

As far as I know …no automobile has had a body on frame for ~10 years.

I’ve said I did a frame off on a gen2 F-body implying the front sub. I had someone call me out, like you, when I obviously knew.

arpad_m · 12-12-2021, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

No frame

Didn’t seem like it. When anyone says frame regarding a vehicle that has no frame, it comes across like people don’t know there is no frame.

Come on, now you're trolling a wee bit

Everyone in this thread is talking about the structure below, even if the term "frame" is incorrect—although now that no body on frame cars are made anymore, we might as well repurpose it

LT4Greg · 12-13-2021, 06:20 AM

I call them subframes because that’s what they are.��

Gunkk · 12-13-2021, 11:43 AM

Verts have steel in slightly different places vs. coupes. With no A or B pillars, nor steel roof, there is extra steel under the rockers and behind the back seats to support the top and add chassis stiffness. The part of the OP's car that got hit is surprisingly tough and well supported underneath.

That said... the important question for the OP becomes:

Does the top still fit properly? Driver side rear window may not be operable due to the collapsed panel, but does it still seal to the top properly? If it does and you don't have significant deformation of the back seat support and steel that supports tonneau and top (visible if you partly operate the top), then you're likely in it for <$10k in mostly fender inner/outer work. If the windows won't drop due to interference then you probably cannot raise the tonneau to see unless you pull the fuse for the driver rear window motor. And I have no idea if there are interlocks... ...gonna be a fun one to fix. Might have to pull that dent out before operating the DR window.

camaroJD · 12-13-2021, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hotlap

As far as I know …no automobile has had a body on frame for ~10 years.

I’ve said I did a frame off on a gen2 F-body implying the front sub. I had someone call me out, like you, when I obviously knew.

No automobile? Maybe no cars. Pickups and a handful of SUVs are still BOF.

Zr8000 · 12-13-2021, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SS Capt

That's really high for a 2016, but I still doubt it is totaled. Put all your cars info in kbb.com and see what it says. I bet that repair is under $20,000, if your car's value is at least 20% over that, I think you are good.

It’s a 20,000 dollar car all day long not crashed. I don’t see an insurance company putting over 10k in it.

Number 3 · 12-13-2021, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

Come on, now you're trolling a wee bit

Everyone in this thread is talking about the structure below, even if the term "frame" is incorrect—although now that no body on frame cars are made anymore, we might as well repurpose it

40 years of body engineering………….

90503 · 12-13-2021, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

40 years of body engineering………….

...and twelve years of ego-stroking thread-jacking...lol

12-12-2021, 04:09 PM	#15
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,172 View My Garage	LOL seriously. There is no frame to be bent. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

12-12-2021, 05:52 PM	#18
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	Like was said, if the cost of repairs is more than the value of the car, then yes it will be a total. I know you don’t want to hear that but that’s the way Insurance companies operate. I would wait until the claims adjustor looks at it and go from there. Good luck and you could get a new Camaro to replace that one. At least the Camaro is still in production for maybe a couple more years. __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

12-12-2021, 07:02 PM	#19
avalonandl Drives: 2019 ZL-1 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Troy, MI & Naples, FL Posts: 2,019	I would say thats about 7k $ in repairs without knowing if the Convertible bracing/action parts are damaged..... __________________ 2019 ZL-1 Acquired 4/23/21 at 6300 miles. Riverside Blue, A10, PDR. Traded in 2017 2SS with 6M and 32k miles. Continental Extreme Contact Sports. Now has 10,000 miles... 2012 Yukon XL Denali w/ 6.2 AWD

12-13-2021, 06:20 AM	#23
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	I call them subframes because that’s what they are.�� __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

12-13-2021, 11:43 AM	#24
Gunkk Thank you Al Oppenheiser! Drives: Red Hot A10 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 4,978 View My Garage	Verts have steel in slightly different places vs. coupes. With no A or B pillars, nor steel roof, there is extra steel under the rockers and behind the back seats to support the top and add chassis stiffness. The part of the OP's car that got hit is surprisingly tough and well supported underneath. That said... the important question for the OP becomes: Does the top still fit properly? Driver side rear window may not be operable due to the collapsed panel, but does it still seal to the top properly? If it does and you don't have significant deformation of the back seat support and steel that supports tonneau and top (visible if you partly operate the top), then you're likely in it for <$10k in mostly fender inner/outer work. If the windows won't drop due to interference then you probably cannot raise the tonneau to see unless you pull the fuse for the driver rear window motor. And I have no idea if there are interlocks... ...gonna be a fun one to fix. Might have to pull that dent out before operating the DR window. Last edited by Gunkk; 12-13-2021 at 11:55 AM.

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