Will your ‘24 order be affected by UAW contract negotiations?

50MileSmile · 07-20-2023, 11:03 AM

Hopefully not; so far, there’s been no bad news to report. The plant contract(s) run out Sept. 14, and each plant or facility is a separate bargaining unit. Negotiations between GM and the UAW started July 18; you can follow the progress here:
https://www.gmnegotiations2023.com/p...ions/home.html.

ItsChristianInHD · 07-20-2023, 11:06 AM

The last 4 years have not treated Camaro well, production wise. At this rate I have a feeling getting a 2023/2024 2SS at a fair deal, will be impossible.

LateBrakeU2 · 07-20-2023, 01:55 PM

The potential of a UAW strike is why they are building all the CE cars first, highest margins for their dealers who may be shut out of inventory by the holidays. If you look around the country right now,organized labor is emboldened and it's going to get very disruptive if UPS and UAW walk off.

GenericID10T · 07-20-2023, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ItsChristianInHD

The last 4 years have not treated Camaro well, production wise. At this rate I have a feeling getting a 2023/2024 2SS at a fair deal, will be impossible.

2023's are out there - I have talked to several dealerships offering MSRP - incentives but wanted to wait on a specific color. Mine is currently In Transit but will be MSRP - incentives. You will likely need to be willing to travel or pay for delivery though - but if you do the legwork, there are fair dealerships still out there with inventory.

50MileSmile · 07-20-2023, 02:10 PM

Interesting. Originally, GM said it was going to end production with the CEs.

ItsChristianInHD · 07-20-2023, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GenericID10T

2023's are out there - I have talked to several dealerships offering MSRP - incentives but wanted to wait on a specific color. Mine is currently In Transit but will be MSRP - incentives. You will likely need to be willing to travel or pay for delivery though - but if you do the legwork, there are fair dealerships still out there with inventory.

I’m searching! Lol. It’s hard to find a Riverside blue or Shadow gray 2SS, NPP, black wheels without a sunroof within 500 miles of my zip. I think I decided too late.

I’d rather have riptide blue judging from the photos but man, the lack of allocations scares me. I don’t mind waiting but at least if I order I wanna hope it gets built.

split_bumper · 07-20-2023, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 50MileSmile

Interesting. Originally, GM said it was going to end production with the CEs.

I thought it was in another thread on here that all CE were targeted for production this week. The ZL1's anyways. You may be right about the non ZL1 collectors, which I'd suspect will be on constraint for majority of the build season anyways.

GenericID10T · 07-20-2023, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ItsChristianInHD

I’m searching! Lol. It’s hard to find a Riverside blue or Shadow gray 2SS, NPP, black wheels without a sunroof within 500 miles of my zip. I think I decided too late.

I’d rather have riptide blue judging from the photos but man, the lack of allocations scares me. I don’t mind waiting but at least if I order I wanna hope it gets built.

Not within 500 miles, but this one just popped up as on the lot this morning:

https://www.seguinchevrolet.com/new/...97d0bf1240.htm

I haven't talked to them, but no mention of markups or add-ons as of yet.

ItsChristianInHD · 07-20-2023, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GenericID10T

Not within 500 miles, but this one just popped up as on the lot this morning:

https://www.seguinchevrolet.com/new/...97d0bf1240.htm

I haven't talked to them, but no mention of markups or add-ons as of yet.

Hmmm interesting, I’ll take a closer look then, maybe I’m feeling lucky!

Thank you, btw.

NovaSS4spdFan · 07-21-2023, 06:51 AM

A very real concern. With inflation consistently outpacing wages (according to government reports and using the good 'ole pain in the wallet factor), the UAW just might strike.
Across the industry, there currently is a 50 day plus supply of ICE vehicles and a 100 day plus supply of EV vehicles. The manufacturers may be able to get by with that if they think they can ride it out for 3-4 weeks to gain concessions.
Of course, Camaro " on the lot" numbers likely lower, but supply for our vehicle of choice is apparently meaningless to the General.

50MileSmile · 07-21-2023, 08:00 AM

If there is a strike, the UAW has announced it will be against the Big Three.

XXX ZL1 · 07-21-2023, 05:44 PM

I have a 24 ZL1 allocated and order accepted at this time so I’m hoping it gets through before the strike happens. That will end an already very short production year. Camaro can’t seem to catch a break over past few years. I had hell getting my 23 allocated last year.

ItsChristianInHD · 08-16-2023, 12:11 PM

Man this situation is looking scary.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/08...ike-next-week/

50MileSmile · 08-16-2023, 01:35 PM

The UAW predident is really pushing for a strike.

07-20-2023, 11:03 AM	#1
50MileSmile Drives: 2023 2SS, 2018 1SS 1LE, 1993 Z/28 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Midwest Posts: 819	Will your ‘24 order be affected by UAW contract negotiations? Hopefully not; so far, there’s been no bad news to report. The plant contract(s) run out Sept. 14, and each plant or facility is a separate bargaining unit. Negotiations between GM and the UAW started July 18; you can follow the progress here: https://www.gmnegotiations2023.com/p...ions/home.html.

07-21-2023, 05:44 PM	#12
XXX ZL1 Drives: 2023 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Pace FL Posts: 417	I have a 24 ZL1 allocated and order accepted at this time so I’m hoping it gets through before the strike happens. That will end an already very short production year. Camaro can’t seem to catch a break over past few years. I had hell getting my 23 allocated last year. __________________ 2024 Riverside Blue ZL1 M6 Magnuson 2650R, NW 103, Roto Fab Big Gulp, Jet Hot Coated ARH 2 inch LT's, Stainless Works NPP, Too High PSI Billet Valve Covers, Mighty Mouse Wild CC Signature Forged 20x10.5/20x11.5, 295/30-315/30, BMR springs, BMR Cradle lockout, AAD Billet Control/Trailing arms 2023 Vivid Orange ZL1 M6 - sold 2019 Riverside Blue ZL1 A10 - sold

08-16-2023, 12:11 PM	#13
ItsChristianInHD Drives: 2017 Camaro 2LT RS 3.6L Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Orange Park, Florida Posts: 1,313	Man this situation is looking scary. https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/08...ike-next-week/ __________________ 2017 2LT RS 3.6L A8.

07-20-2023, 11:06 AM	#2
ItsChristianInHD Drives: 2017 Camaro 2LT RS 3.6L Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Orange Park, Florida Posts: 1,313	The last 4 years have not treated Camaro well, production wise. At this rate I have a feeling getting a 2023/2024 2SS at a fair deal, will be impossible.

07-20-2023, 01:55 PM	#3
LateBrakeU2 Drives: 15 RH Z/28, 23 RB2SS1LE, 23LT1VOM Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: So Cal Posts: 821	The potential of a UAW strike is why they are building all the CE cars first, highest margins for their dealers who may be shut out of inventory by the holidays. If you look around the country right now,organized labor is emboldened and it's going to get very disruptive if UPS and UAW walk off.

07-20-2023, 02:10 PM	#5
50MileSmile Drives: 2023 2SS, 2018 1SS 1LE, 1993 Z/28 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Midwest Posts: 819	Interesting. Originally, GM said it was going to end production with the CEs.

07-21-2023, 06:51 AM	#10
NovaSS4spdFan Drives: 2024 2SS vert w/M6 & Dual Mode. Red Join Date: May 2023 Location: NJ Posts: 165	A very real concern. With inflation consistently outpacing wages (according to government reports and using the good 'ole pain in the wallet factor), the UAW just might strike. Across the industry, there currently is a 50 day plus supply of ICE vehicles and a 100 day plus supply of EV vehicles. The manufacturers may be able to get by with that if they think they can ride it out for 3-4 weeks to gain concessions. Of course, Camaro " on the lot" numbers likely lower, but supply for our vehicle of choice is apparently meaningless to the General.

07-21-2023, 08:00 AM	#11
50MileSmile Drives: 2023 2SS, 2018 1SS 1LE, 1993 Z/28 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Midwest Posts: 819	If there is a strike, the UAW has announced it will be against the Big Three.

08-16-2023, 01:35 PM	#14
50MileSmile Drives: 2023 2SS, 2018 1SS 1LE, 1993 Z/28 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Midwest Posts: 819	The UAW predident is really pushing for a strike.

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