2016+ Chevrolet Camaro LED Sidemarkers! Smoked / Clear / Red! USA Made! Install Vid! - Page 17

Block8head · 05-09-2017, 02:48 PM

Don't worry, it will be available before Christmax!!! hahahha

:be llyroll:

Mr. Grumpy · 05-11-2017, 02:17 PM

Any updates?

Diode Dynamics · 05-11-2017, 04:27 PM

We really appreciate everyone's patience. We've been excited to get these out for a while but here's the story:

We had some issues with the final step of the assembly process, which is ultrasonic welding the lens and housing together. Previous sidemarkers we have made have quite a bit of tolerance in the location of the seal. If you look at the Camaro ones, you will see that it is completely flush around the edge where the lens meets the housing. We didn't realize how much trickier this would be.

The ultrasonic welding process requires a horn to be produced, which is basically a block of aluminum that must be cut carefully to be contoured the the lens, polished to a mirror finish to avoid any scratches, all while being "tuned" to a specific frequency so it resonates and welds the pieces together with sounds waves. The original horn we had delivered was not prepared properly for us, so it was not getting a reliable seal, the parts were not locating properly. Even if it's airtight now, if the seal is not strong enough, tiny pinhole leaks may have developed within a few years on the road, so we knew it had to be fixed. We tried to machine the horn to fix it, but we accidentally put it out of tuning by a few khz from what we can tell. So we had to have a new horn re-made, which is a process that (as you have experienced) takes a few weeks. We CNC ourselves here, but with the way the horn must be tuned, we cannot make them ourselves. We ended up getting a new horn, and then machining out our own base anvil to hold the parts in place nice and secure. Pic attached of the base, which is ready to go.

Anyway, we expect the new horn to be delivered Monday and we have confirmed about 2 dozen times now that it will be tuned properly. We will then get production underway, and will FINALLY be shipping very soon. We should have confirmed all this before advising our release date, but we honestly did not expect to see these issues that would end up causing an 8 week delay - big lesson learned. Thanks for all your patience everyone.

KyBoy · 05-11-2017, 04:32 PM

That is a hell of a journey. I'm still waiting on my smoked DD markers, no way I'm selling out to the "other" guy.

Heath

AlphaCamaro7 · 05-11-2017, 04:44 PM

Cool can't wait, when can we expect a release or shipping date?

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Block8head · 05-11-2017, 04:53 PM

Diode Dynamics · 05-11-2017, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaCamaro7

Cool can't wait, when can we expect a release or shipping date?

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We will be able to set the release date after confirming this new horn. We will post the results of that on Tuesday, and if all goes well we will set a release date. We are hoping to get them moving quickly into production!

zeekle · 05-11-2017, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diode Dynamics

We are hoping to get them moving quickly into production!

I would bet we are hoping more than you are

Billabongi · 05-12-2017, 07:10 AM

I love how transparent you guys are, also a big fan of sharing the engineering behind this. I for one had no clue it was so precise.

2K16SummitSS · 05-12-2017, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diode Dynamics

We really appreciate everyone's patience. We've been excited to get these out for a while but here's the story:

We had some issues with the final step of the assembly process, which is ultrasonic welding the lens and housing together. Previous sidemarkers we have made have quite a bit of tolerance in the location of the seal. If you look at the Camaro ones, you will see that it is completely flush around the edge where the lens meets the housing. We didn't realize how much trickier this would be.

The ultrasonic welding process requires a horn to be produced, which is basically a block of aluminum that must be cut carefully to be contoured the the lens, polished to a mirror finish to avoid any scratches, all while being "tuned" to a specific frequency so it resonates and welds the pieces together with sounds waves. The original horn we had delivered was not prepared properly for us, so it was not getting a reliable seal, the parts were not locating properly. Even if it's airtight now, if the seal is not strong enough, tiny pinhole leaks may have developed within a few years on the road, so we knew it had to be fixed. We tried to machine the horn to fix it, but we accidentally put it out of tuning by a few khz from what we can tell. So we had to have a new horn re-made, which is a process that (as you have experienced) takes a few weeks. We CNC ourselves here, but with the way the horn must be tuned, we cannot make them ourselves. We ended up getting a new horn, and then machining out our own base anvil to hold the parts in place nice and secure. Pic attached of the base, which is ready to go.

Anyway, we expect the new horn to be delivered Monday and we have confirmed about 2 dozen times now that it will be tuned properly. We will then get production underway, and will FINALLY be shipping very soon. We should have confirmed all this before advising our release date, but we honestly did not expect to see these issues that would end up causing an 8 week delay - big lesson learned. Thanks for all your patience everyone.

^^^^ This right here is why you will get my business. Absolute honesty, and a cool explanation of production methods and the voodoo that goes along with it

I will remain patient for an excellent product.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 05-12-2017, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diode Dynamics

We really appreciate everyone's patience. We've been excited to get these out for a while but here's the story:

We had some issues with the final step of the assembly process, which is ultrasonic welding the lens and housing together. Previous sidemarkers we have made have quite a bit of tolerance in the location of the seal. If you look at the Camaro ones, you will see that it is completely flush around the edge where the lens meets the housing. We didn't realize how much trickier this would be.

The ultrasonic welding process requires a horn to be produced, which is basically a block of aluminum that must be cut carefully to be contoured the the lens, polished to a mirror finish to avoid any scratches, all while being "tuned" to a specific frequency so it resonates and welds the pieces together with sounds waves. The original horn we had delivered was not prepared properly for us, so it was not getting a reliable seal, the parts were not locating properly. Even if it's airtight now, if the seal is not strong enough, tiny pinhole leaks may have developed within a few years on the road, so we knew it had to be fixed. We tried to machine the horn to fix it, but we accidentally put it out of tuning by a few khz from what we can tell. So we had to have a new horn re-made, which is a process that (as you have experienced) takes a few weeks. We CNC ourselves here, but with the way the horn must be tuned, we cannot make them ourselves. We ended up getting a new horn, and then machining out our own base anvil to hold the parts in place nice and secure. Pic attached of the base, which is ready to go.

Anyway, we expect the new horn to be delivered Monday and we have confirmed about 2 dozen times now that it will be tuned properly. We will then get production underway, and will FINALLY be shipping very soon. We should have confirmed all this before advising our release date, but we honestly did not expect to see these issues that would end up causing an 8 week delay - big lesson learned. Thanks for all your patience everyone.

Very cool stuff - thanks for the update!

pkssauce · 05-12-2017, 01:43 PM

Thank you for the update, makes me want them just that much more!

Corner carver · 05-12-2017, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkssauce

Thank you for the update, makes me want them just that much more!

+1

MR 45TH · 05-12-2017, 02:49 PM

To get a part that is engineered to last, it's worth the wait to get it right. I know you'll be getting my business whenever it is they are ready

05-11-2017, 02:17 PM	#226
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05-11-2017, 04:27 PM	#227
Diode Dynamics Drives: Camaro Lighting Experts Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,429	We really appreciate everyone's patience. We've been excited to get these out for a while but here's the story: We had some issues with the final step of the assembly process, which is ultrasonic welding the lens and housing together. Previous sidemarkers we have made have quite a bit of tolerance in the location of the seal. If you look at the Camaro ones, you will see that it is completely flush around the edge where the lens meets the housing. We didn't realize how much trickier this would be. The ultrasonic welding process requires a horn to be produced, which is basically a block of aluminum that must be cut carefully to be contoured the the lens, polished to a mirror finish to avoid any scratches, all while being "tuned" to a specific frequency so it resonates and welds the pieces together with sounds waves. The original horn we had delivered was not prepared properly for us, so it was not getting a reliable seal, the parts were not locating properly. Even if it's airtight now, if the seal is not strong enough, tiny pinhole leaks may have developed within a few years on the road, so we knew it had to be fixed. We tried to machine the horn to fix it, but we accidentally put it out of tuning by a few khz from what we can tell. So we had to have a new horn re-made, which is a process that (as you have experienced) takes a few weeks. We CNC ourselves here, but with the way the horn must be tuned, we cannot make them ourselves. We ended up getting a new horn, and then machining out our own base anvil to hold the parts in place nice and secure. Pic attached of the base, which is ready to go. Anyway, we expect the new horn to be delivered Monday and we have confirmed about 2 dozen times now that it will be tuned properly. We will then get production underway, and will FINALLY be shipping very soon. We should have confirmed all this before advising our release date, but we honestly did not expect to see these issues that would end up causing an 8 week delay - big lesson learned. Thanks for all your patience everyone. __________________ John C. Diode Dynamics Follow Us: FB // IG // YT // TikTok

05-11-2017, 04:32 PM	#228
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05-11-2017, 04:44 PM	#229
AlphaCamaro7 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS, NPP, A8, FBO, E85 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Springfield,VA Posts: 884 View My Garage	Cool can't wait, when can we expect a release or shipping date? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Well............ At least you tried. lol

05-12-2017, 07:10 AM	#233
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05-09-2017, 02:48 PM	#225
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05-11-2017, 04:53 PM	#230
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05-12-2017, 01:43 PM	#236
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05-12-2017, 02:49 PM	#238
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