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Old 07-08-2023, 01:16 PM   #1
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RPM Needle Bouncing

My RPM needle will bounce as I drive... it idles smooth and with no bounce. Any suggestions and or tips would be extremely appreciated as I have taken it to the dealership I bought it from and have a warranty through and they've told me its fine... I'm not convinced. This link goes to a YouTube video I uploaded showing my concern. https://youtube.com/shorts/dYaV9H7gj0s?feature=share
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Old 07-08-2023, 01:36 PM   #2
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My RPM needle will bounce as I drive... it idles smooth and with no bounce. Any suggestions and or tips would be extremely appreciated as I have taken it to the dealership I bought it from and have a warranty through and they've told me its fine... I'm not convinced. This link goes to a YouTube video I uploaded showing my concern. https://youtube.com/shorts/dYaV9H7gj0s?feature=share
If it was an old car with distributor I'd say its the ignition, or even the crankshaft position sensor... Does the engine has a misfire or acts weird?

That signal comes from the ECU. It a could be real RPM fluctiations or an issue with the tachometer.
I'd say you need to plug an OBD2 diagnose tool and check what the RPM looks like. If they are also fluctuating in the scanner, then you have an issue either with the engine or if it is auto also the transmission.


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Old 07-08-2023, 01:50 PM   #3
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The engine doesn't misfire or act weird, it just pulses while I drive and I can also audibly hear the car sometimes match the RPM fluctuation. Its a 2019 so not to old lol. Maybe I will try switching the crankshaft position sensor out.
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Old 07-08-2023, 02:11 PM   #4
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Before changing anything i would check it with the obdii
Like previously mentioned. Mine had a wild tach and the
Dealer put it on a techii and reprogrammed something to fix it.
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Old 07-08-2023, 04:14 PM   #5
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The engine doesn't misfire or act weird, it just pulses while I drive and I can also audibly hear the car sometimes match the RPM fluctuation. Its a 2019 so not to old lol. Maybe I will try switching the crankshaft position sensor out.
If you feel the car matching the tach fluctiation then you have an issue. Might be transmission if auto. Torque converter locking/unlocking or oil pressure in the clutches can cause that.
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Old 07-09-2023, 07:43 AM   #6
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If you feel the car matching the tach fluctuation then you have an issue.
Agree.
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Old 07-09-2023, 07:57 AM   #7
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Loose grounds cause this. Check 'em.
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Old 07-12-2023, 07:48 AM   #8
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If it's an automatic, how many miles on the transmission / current fluid?

It's anecdotal, but I'll relay why I'm asking...

My wife's Acura was purchased CPO with about 25k on it. The service interval for a fluid change will vary based on conditions to somewhere between 30k and 60k. Her car indicated the fluid should be changed around 35k or so and we ignored it. Her Accord had over 200k on it and the transmission fluid was seldom changed...

At close to 50k we finally got it changed because I noticed the same type of symptoms you're describing... on the highway, with a very slight uphill grade (this ensured you were pressing the accelerator slightly but not hard enough to cause it to downshift), the tach needle would pulse and you could make out a slight change in the sounds from the engine (indicating that it was surging slightly). End result was that the transmission was starting to slip slightly.

Acura's change process is to drain and fill the transmission three full times (using approximately 12 quarts of ATF). I had my mechanic do a drain and fill, we drove it for about 200 miles, then returned for a second drain and fill. Car now has about 75k on it and it has been flawless since we took care of it.

TL;DR - if you have an automatic and are at/above the 50k mark, consider getting the fluid changed. If your mileage is below that, consider taking your car to a reputable transmission shop for deeper diagnosis.
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Old 07-12-2023, 07:55 AM   #9
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You guys keep mentioning the transmission. How is a tachometer related to the transmission. If I put the car in neutral and rev the engine, the tach reads the engine rpm's, the trans is not moving.
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Old 07-12-2023, 07:56 AM   #10
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You guys keep mentioning the transmission. How is a tachometer related to the transmission. If I put the car in neutral and rev the engine, the tach reads the engine rpm's, the trans is not moving.
Read my post.
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Old 07-12-2023, 09:07 AM   #11
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Most likely a grounding issue. Myself and many others had the bouncing tach on hot days, along with the hot start issue. I followed SSDan's guidance a couple years ago at this link https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=586153 and it fixed both my issues at once. Haven't had a bouncy tach since.

No reason not to give it a shot. Its quick, easy, cheap and even if it doesn't help the tach, it won't hurt anything.
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Old 07-12-2023, 09:22 AM   #12
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Most likely a grounding issue. Myself and many others had the bouncing tach on hot days, along with the hot start issue. I followed SSDan's guidance a couple years ago at this link https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=586153 and it fixed both my issues at once. Haven't had a bouncy tach since.

No reason not to give it a shot. Its quick, easy, cheap and even if it doesn't help the tach, it won't hurt anything.
Interesting... The hot start / heat soak issue was constrained to the 2016, was it not? After that, they corrected the shielding?

Like you said... easy to at least look into if not potentially modify.
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Old 07-12-2023, 09:53 AM   #13
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Grounding issue.

Run a nice fat ground wire from the grounding point by the front pass side fuse box to the engine block.

This is super easy and cheap, great first step in tracking down the issue.
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