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Nowhere is GM saying this TTV6 mill is bound for the next gen Camaro. They haven't said what it will be in, might be in Silverados for all we know. We're all saying this is speculative, but the speculation is grouded in the reality that this engine is going to happen. Where are you getting the info that we're going to see the return of the iron duke?
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04-09-2012, 11:32 AM | #58 |
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I can all but guarantee there will be NO V8 on the 6th gen camaro...they'll probably keep one on the C7 vette though.
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I can't see GM not offering at least one V8 option for the 6th gen. I personally hope it is a smaller displacement (302-305 ci) DI/VVT engine. However, I also hope we start seeing them turbo V6s. Turbos seems to be the route everyone is going to get power and economy. Turbos also allow you to tune them for specific needs. Look at the Ecoboost 3.5. In the F-150 it is a low-end torque monster but in the SHO it has lots of mid-range HP. It is hard to do that with a NA engine and keep costs down and production rates high.
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And what evidence do you have which supports such accusations? Any evidence I've found disagrees with your guarantee.
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Based on....?
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Nothing released by GM that's for sure lol. Every rumor site (like gminsidenews or whatever) says the alpha 6th gen is getting a LT1...
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04-09-2012, 02:25 PM | #63 | |
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In the summer of 2008, gas prices rose to $4 a gallon as oil prices skyrocketed to $145 a barrel, even though demand and supply were fairly constant. In summer of 2009, gas prices again rose, despite the recession, which decreased demand. Commodities traders were the reason for both. Also Oil prices are set by commodities traders who buy and sell futures contracts on the commodities exchanges.These are agreements to buy or sell oil at a specific date in the future at a specific price. Commodities traders can create a self-fulfilling prophecy by bidding up oil futures prices. Once this starts, it can create an asset bubble. Unfortunately, the one who pays for this bubble is you! (credit goes to about.com for the two excerpt) In the end it could be well over the $6.00 mark. You can never judge greed unfortunately. |
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Seeing threads like this make me very torn as the owner of a Camaro and also someone who is studying Environmental Biology and Sustainability. We simply cannot continue using fossil fuels in this country or even the world at the rate we are now. The population simply will not allow it. OTOH, i absolutely love muscle cars and would love to own something that sounds and burns fuel like there is no tomorrow.
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I don't feel that hybrids or electric cars are the answer, but we have enough natural gas on hand to last us well over a lifetime (not to mention the money will be going to U.S. based buisnesses) and hopefully by then we'll have a new solution to get over our current addiction to gas and oil. In a perfect world we'd get a FI 4 cylinder, N/A V6, Turbo V6, and V8 version of the 6th gen Camaro. My how I'd love to have a lighter weight, more nimble Camaro with an LFX n/a V6 crankin out something around 340 to 350 horse. Would be a very affordable nice performing car....of course if money is no object...you go with the big dog version lol.
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Take a look at the LFX exhaust manifold ( or lack of ) the perfect spot to mount a turbo. The mounting is already there at the head and it almost fits a T3 turbo mounting plate. Things that make you go HHHHHmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Can I have a new Turbo Ecotech and a 3,200 pound 6th Gen for my next DD?
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In short $6/gal will devastate all the emerging market economies that are dependent on exports stemming from outsourcing by developed economies. And with it, the very demand many speculators are betting will push prices higher will disappear as well. $6 gas is not a self-fulfilling prophecy, it is a self-destroying prophecy. You are right that there is a bubble in prices at the moment. But all bubbles eventually pop sooner or later. Quote:
Second, TTV6s are really not any more fuel efficient than NA V8s of similar power, just more complicated. Whatever efficiency gain that comes from downsizing the engine is largely canceled out by the reduction in compression ratio forced induction requires. Ultimately, a V8 with cylinder deactivation is probably the better choice when trying to balance big power and efficiency. This is particularly true for sports cars, which are usually driven harder than normal cars. If the car is driven hard, and the turbos are always spooled up, the NA V8 may actually be the more efficient choice compared to a TTV6.
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