12-19-2017, 11:21 PM | #505 |
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Breathe brah!! Its just a car. I kind of imagine you pulling your hair out when not on the forum looking for more details on 18 GT runs.
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12-20-2017, 12:07 AM | #507 |
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12-20-2017, 03:39 AM | #508 |
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Does it concern the camaro owners here, even a little, that the 2018 mustang GT which has been out a matter of weeks and is in the hands of almost no one is already posting hero runs at or near the very best of the current camaro? How about the trap speeds we’re seeing which hover close to 120mph? When I look at the hero list of camaro here I see trap speeds at 114, 115, 116 mph. And that is a car in the hands of public a couple years.....just wait until the public has these (almost no one has one yet, look at the orders page on mustang6g)....probably won’t be until spring next year when we see avg Joes breaking into 11s at 120. As of now I’ve seen 3 YouTube’s with claims of bone stock Down to the tire (NOT DRAG RADIALS) trapping at almost 120 with the worst run 12.0x and Evans hero runs in the deep 11.8x. If you’re not concerned from a fanboy bench racing standpoint based on all that, you should be.
I’ve seen “ it’s a ringer” , “the track was rented”, “he ripped out the seats” , “drag radials”.....only true claim was track rental for Evan, rest fanboy bs. Others did on public track nights......The 2018 GT is a faster car in a straight line than the SS. Denial isn’t a river in Egypt. Last edited by Fox9350; 12-20-2017 at 04:01 AM. |
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12-20-2017, 07:51 AM | #511 |
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That 11.835 @ 119 posted by Smith had a 60 ft time of 1.88, which is good but not what these top runs made by Camaro's seem to be doing. If someone can knock that down to a 1.7 or 1.6, we're looking at a possible 11.6 ET which matches the trap speed the mustang is putting down.
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12-20-2017, 07:54 AM | #512 |
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I think we can leave the Mustang Trolls to continue this thread on their own guys. They fail to accept the fact that while the new Mustang is clearly very fast, it is simply too early to call it quite yet. They wont give up until we declare the Mustang the bench racing champion.
I suspect years of poor performance has them all worked up, and that pent up desire to go fast has them foaming at the mouth now that Ford has clearly made the '18 GT a clear competitor. They just need a mountain to scream from the top of, and I guess C6G is their mountain. I am more interested to see how it sells now that isn't a bargain anymore. As many Stangers have proclaimed, performance doesn't matter. Not sure what will keep sales up if that is true, considering they are spending for to gain nothing that 'matters'.
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12-20-2017, 08:03 AM | #514 | |
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Based on Lund video, the 18 mustang is very well tuned from factory with little to gain on 93oct. He had to resort to e85 for good gains and he put it in perspective when he talked about the gains in the 15-17 which were better, especially in the mid range, where the coyote needs it the most. I'm not discounting the mustang. What I am seeing is a bunch of blind fanatics that can't differentiate what they have in front of them. I started with mustangs back in 1991, and have had 4 all built and I drag raced them regularly. Now I also own an LS powered that has been the easiest to hit goals IMO. My biggest disappointment has always been how ford and other mustang owners claim the mustang can run this et/mph and it's like finding a needle in a haystack at the track with one actually running good times. The only one that has impressed and met the expectation was my buddy's 12 Boss which ran a best of 12.4@117 bone stock on stock tires with some practice. I jumped in it and ran 12.7@115 with absolutely no practice. Drag radials installed and ran 11.7-8@121! Later it broke the transmission. I like both the Camaro and the mustang, but ford priced the mustang way too high IMO. That's Stingray territory. I'm waiting to see what happens within the next year, it should be exciting! Last edited by Pitufina; 12-20-2017 at 08:14 AM. |
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I remember when it was about the TPI 350 vs the 5.0...Then LT1 vs the 5.0.. How there was no way the LS1 was that fast stock... And a ton of people not being able to run times in stripped down LS1's that Evan did in a loaded up car. I remember Bob Crosby running 11's in his 99 cobra and both the cobra owners and the LS owners called BS because guys could barely run 12's with them I remember the big feud between the C5Z owners and the 03-04 cobra guys. Arguing who was faster and how ford needed a blower. Nitrous is cheating, Nitrous blows up motors, blowers are the best, turbos are better,carb is the way to go,efi is the way to go.... yada,yada,yada This is nothing more then good ole internet trolling. I just love how blinding brand loyalty can be.... Evan could have ran a 11.1@123 and ford boys wouldn't have blinked. I look forward to seeing the 18 click off 10's with upgraded spark plugs and walmart house brand tires. LMAO... but even more so looking forward to watching a ton of people try to run what he did and scratch their heads because they cant. I mean PRO DRIVER in a A10 with drag mode.... Aside from cutting down the tree how much work did he actually do aside from tire pressure changes??????????
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LOL I think this for the most part has all been in good fun. I also think a lot of it is there were a few select people here that said the HP bump and A10 wouldn't make a huge difference in the Mustang performance from 15-17. Seems like the mustang guys want those people to eat crow now LOL. Like I said earlier, KM had the best view. Straightline the cars seem to be pretty damn even now, in the turns the Camaro will still probably have a significant advantage. Why is this good news? It clearly shows that GM is pushing Ford hard to compete. From these early numbers, the 18 is much better than the 15-17 cars. That normally doesn't happen in a refresh. Now some like Blaq or hotlap might say Ford is just getting to the party big deal. Yes it is a big deal, you might even say Ford got caught with their pants down with how good the 6 gen was/is while the S550 was just good enough. GM clearly was a bit more forward thinking performance wise with the 6th gen, than Ford was with the Mustang. Why is it good the Mustang seems to have caught up? Competition makes everyone better. GM seeing how much Ford put into just a refresh, might make them do a bit more than they had planned in a refresh or might make them push the 7th gen car even further than they were planning, bc they see the competition across the street is ready to respond and not going down without a fight. While its fun to come on a forum and go haha look how bad the competition failed, we should want all refreshes/ next gens to out do the competition. BC that makes the next round of cars even better. And a side note on the Evan Smith Hero run that I think a lot of people are glossing over, he straight up mentioned several things that are "tricks" to getting best ET. I think people are underestimating how much short staging can help knock E/T down. |
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Not trying to rain on the parade but there have been guys in NEGATIVE DA that have trapped 118-120 in the 6th gen stock. Well 119.68... I shouldn't round up.
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