09-22-2014, 12:50 PM | #1 |
2010 2SS/RS M6
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Another "do I trade up" thread...
Sorry if this is in the wrong section, please move accordingly.
TL;DR = Getting frustrated trying to mod my 2010 SS, should I trade it for a ZL1 Full Story I'm still dealing with issues in the suspension (that now seem to have found their way into the rear drive line) has me seriously debating the next step with Bee. After multiple conversations with friends in the local Camaro Club, and discussing things with my wife, I am thinking of trading in Bee. Some of the cars I've considered are the ZL1, a BMW M3, a Ford Raptor, and even possibly an Aston Martin. Don't get me wrong I love Bee, but I fear that in my attempt to "make it mine" I overstepped my abilities and have created a money pit. If this wasn't my daily driver I would be in a completely different situation, but the fact remains that I depend on my car to get to work and I can't continue taking the car apart so often trying to chase issues. With that being said, I've started looking at the pros and cons of keeping Bee. Pros:
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I have over $11k invested in the car so far and I forecast another ~$20k to get it where I want it. I still want to install a supercharger, cam (and associated internals), big-brake upgrade, 3.91 gears, clutch, drive shaft, axles. In the end, I hope to have a very trackable car that can/will beat cars like the Z28. However, if I trade it for a new ZL1 I would regain the factory warranty, get several of the planned upgrades out of the way (and a few others that were previously cost prohibitive like magnetic ride control and Recaro seats) Some of the big considerations in my decision:
To look at the financial side of things. To keep Bee: $15k left in payments. +$20K left in upgrades +$5k trial & error costs =$40k for the car I want. If I went with a ZL1, it would have to have Recaro seats so I'm looking for at least a 2014 or newer (which unfortunately means those stupid tail lights). $55k (best case scenario, assuming I find one without all the extras) -$8k trade in +$6600 interest from financing +$1200 new tires (I need all-seasons to drive it year round) -$3800 de-modding Bee (pure estimate of ~$5,000 of "recoverable" parts x 75%) =$51k for a car close to what I want (plus who knows how much in mods to finish it). The other thought I had was to just stick things out with Bee until the 2016's are revealed. At this point, I just don't know what to do. Thoughts and opinions appreciated, but please elaborate as to why you would go one way or the other.
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Cosmetic: ZL1 front w/mailslot, painted stripes, powdercoated SS rims, tow hook, and full chrome delete Suspension: Pfadt subframe bushings, Pfadt rear UCA bushings, Z28 Upper control arms, Spohn trailing arms with BMR trailing arm & differential bushings, ZL1 Toe Rods and springs, Prothane radius arm inserts & steering rack bushing, Pfadt Sport front sway, FE4 conversion w/ DS rear sway, Pfadt strut brace Drivetrain: RMCR tune, CAI intake, Kooks headers, hi-flo cats & exhaust, VMAX TB, ZL1 fuel pump, LSR Tri-Ax shifter Bumblebee Racecar Build |
09-22-2014, 12:54 PM | #2 |
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I'd wait for the '16 model...then again, I'm not looking to get anything else anytime soon. Unless it's the C7 Z06
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09-22-2014, 01:02 PM | #3 |
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You should keep what you have, you wouldn't want to be seen in a car with "those stupid tail lights".
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09-22-2014, 01:11 PM | #4 |
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Supercharge and mod your car further... not worth the extra $$ for the trade especially if you don't fully like the car...
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09-22-2014, 01:46 PM | #5 |
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Get a ZL1. You will be starting with a much stouter platform if you feel the need to mod it. Suspension, brakes, drivetrain are all upgraded. My Z is my only car and is daily driven plus it goes to the drag strip almost every week. 38,000 miles so far. I'm over 650 whp too.
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09-22-2014, 01:51 PM | #6 |
Todd
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I didn't read it all but get a m4. Not a m3. And pull out all your mods and sell them to help out with the down payment on an m4
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09-22-2014, 02:08 PM | #7 |
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Hahaha get a 2013 zl1 if you can't wait for the 6th gen
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09-22-2014, 02:10 PM | #8 |
2010 2SS/RS M6
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But the '13s don't have the Recaros.
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2/7/2014: 419 hp, 419 tq
Cosmetic: ZL1 front w/mailslot, painted stripes, powdercoated SS rims, tow hook, and full chrome delete Suspension: Pfadt subframe bushings, Pfadt rear UCA bushings, Z28 Upper control arms, Spohn trailing arms with BMR trailing arm & differential bushings, ZL1 Toe Rods and springs, Prothane radius arm inserts & steering rack bushing, Pfadt Sport front sway, FE4 conversion w/ DS rear sway, Pfadt strut brace Drivetrain: RMCR tune, CAI intake, Kooks headers, hi-flo cats & exhaust, VMAX TB, ZL1 fuel pump, LSR Tri-Ax shifter Bumblebee Racecar Build |
09-22-2014, 02:15 PM | #9 |
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Wait for the 16? It's literally around the corner.
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09-22-2014, 02:16 PM | #10 |
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That's a plus, IMO.
You need to quit monkeying with your car if you don't know how to do certain things. Take it to a good shop and them fix it - bite the bullet. Then keep it 'til it's paid off and trade it in for whatever you want. The 16s will be out by then. Not sure a ZL1 would suit your DD requirements.
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09-22-2014, 02:25 PM | #11 |
SHKE BKE
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Don't trade in for a 13-15 and regret it later if the 6th gen is better
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09-22-2014, 02:31 PM | #12 |
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I would fix what issues you have now, keep the car and when it is paid off in two years, you can re-evaluate. You may like the '16 better.
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09-22-2014, 02:32 PM | #13 | |
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2/7/2014: 419 hp, 419 tq
Cosmetic: ZL1 front w/mailslot, painted stripes, powdercoated SS rims, tow hook, and full chrome delete Suspension: Pfadt subframe bushings, Pfadt rear UCA bushings, Z28 Upper control arms, Spohn trailing arms with BMR trailing arm & differential bushings, ZL1 Toe Rods and springs, Prothane radius arm inserts & steering rack bushing, Pfadt Sport front sway, FE4 conversion w/ DS rear sway, Pfadt strut brace Drivetrain: RMCR tune, CAI intake, Kooks headers, hi-flo cats & exhaust, VMAX TB, ZL1 fuel pump, LSR Tri-Ax shifter Bumblebee Racecar Build |
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09-22-2014, 02:43 PM | #14 |
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I'd get the new Z and see if they'll swap out the tail lights with your current car.
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