[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

I'd rather see a ZL1 with an LT5.

This^^^

Would have given Chevy a perfect weapon to go head to head with the GT500…but that makes too much sense…

[crysalis_01]

What GT500?
The '20-'22 or the potential next one? I wouldn't be surprised to see the next one running the GTD's alleged 800hp/730lbft Gen.2 Predator.

[CalgaryZL1]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

This^^^

Would have given Chevy a perfect weapon to go head to head with the GT500…but that makes too much sense…

Ford will always out sell Chevy for this very reason

[ALMN]

Honestly, Chevy could have put the lt2 engine in a camaro ss 1le, unique cold air intake kit, rear seat delete, zl1 1le solid rear cradle bushings and call it a z28! 500 hp na light weight camaro!

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by ALMN

Honestly, Chevy could have put the lt2 engine in a camaro ss 1le, unique cold air intake kit, rear seat delete, zl1 1le solid rear cradle bushings and call it a z28! 500 hp na light weight camaro!

When I was doing powertrain forecasts I actually had a 485hp LT2 for Camaro in the forecast. Then someone at GM who definitely knows explained to me that the biggest differences between LT1 and LT2 are

1. the intake (which people have been putting on LT1)
2. the sump system
3. packaging details to facilitate mid-engine installation

At that point I immediately took it out of the forecast.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

When I was doing powertrain forecasts I actually had a 485hp LT2 for Camaro in the forecast. Then someone at GM who definitely knows explained to me that the biggest differences between LT1 and LT2 are

1. the intake (which people have been putting on LT1)
2. the sump system
3. packaging details to facilitate mid-engine installation

At that point I immediately took it out of the forecast.

We already know the intake fits with just a little massaging. I just don’t understand (I do actually as it’s $$$ but just wish Chevy gave a crap about the Camaro) why you can’t slap the Camaro exhaust manifolds and LT1 wet sump oil pan and pump onto the lt2 and put it in a Camaro. The LT2 at the end of the day is still a 6.2 liter gen V small block Chevy. I’m almost positive if you put it next to an lt1 without the exhaust manifolds and intake the dimensions would be exactly the same.

Back in the day, GM started putting the ls6 intake on ls1’s after the ls6 came out. They could have at least given the LT2 intake to 2020 or 2021+ cars. It pulls better up top. But if they just put the slightly modified version of the LT2 I just made up I’m confident the SS could still compete with the 7th gen mustang up until the end of the 7th gen mustang.

[Bosse'sBoss]

For me always was strange to See that FOMOCO never allowed a comparison of their Shelby GT350 nor Mach l VS the 6th gen Camaro SS1LE, I would expect that they would also be afraid of comparing their Dark Horse VS the amazing performing SS1LE

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by Bosse'sBoss

For me always was strange to See that FOMOCO never allowed a comparison of their Shelby GT350 nor Mach l VS the 6th gen Camaro SS1LE, I would expect that they would also be afraid of comparing their Dark Horse VS the amazing performing SS1LE

Ford has always been afraid. They did the same thing back when the 5th gen 1le came out. They wouldn’t let motor trend test it against a boss. I’m confident the 6th gen SS 1le would beat a 16-18 gt350 (not the R) but not sure about the 19+ gt350 or the Mach 1. The Mach 1 I think has too much of a tire advantage for the 1le to overcome. The tires are stickier and the front tire size starts with a 3.

[CTRifecta]

A flurry of outlets have recently posted dyno #s of the new mustang 5.0, and it's pretty much the same output as the prior gen Mach 1s which were rated at 480hp crank.



Would love to see someone like Randy Pobst (what ever happened to him?) do a track comparison between the 1LE and DH. I think we all know what car would be quicker, but it would be interesting / fun to see.

[Big Swole]

All the bench racing aside, I've always come back to this when it comes to "which would beat what" convo's...

1st - Hardly Any owners / drivers that buy any of these cars have the skill set and / or "Ballz" to drive it to it's full potential.

2nd - How Fast / Quick someone is willing to go in Any given car is directly related to the size of their wallet and how much they can afford to "lose" if they wad it up at the track or even in the mountains / canyons.

I've always said, Give me a car I don't have to pay for if I wad it up and the others the same car with the same tires on the same day, and THEN we'll see which car & driver are the best... (or same driver multiple cars with same tires).

I love having the best as much as anyone, but the older I get the more I realize I need to buy what makes me "happy" and who cares about the rest. Rarely can anyone I'm driving with get away from me in almost any different cars I've follow (when they're clearly better cars) and I've followed cars that I knew to be WAY less superior to what I was driving and they were hard to keep up with.

My point?? I bought the SS 1LE in 6MT, not because it would be the quickest around a track, but because it's the car I liked the look of and driving experience the most. I could have bought the ZL1 but went with the less powerful car on purpose for the "fun" of it. I have another very fast car so the ZL1 would have been redundant.

[FarmerFran]

All the BS aside, the DH costs as much as a ZL1 and yet they will compare it to the SS, which will still own it.

[Martinjlm]

This forum needs a “like” button. The two posts immediately above mine both get

[ZPirate]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

All the BS aside, the DH costs as much as a ZL1 and yet they will compare it to the SS, which will still own it.

The DH is way to expensive for what it is. As you said it costs as much as a ZL1. I'd take the ZL1 all day over the DH for the money.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by ZPirate

The DH is way to expensive for what it is. As you said it costs as much as a ZL1. I'd take the ZL1 all day over the DH for the money.

Yep, and I literally did.