Am I being unreasonable in thinking my Camaro has very poor build quality?

[civdiv99]

Not sure how that matters? Our last car bought new before this one was about a $15k pt cruiser, so I did not set a very high bar fot this car. And NO, i am not comparing those cars. But, if I was going to ask about other's experiences in areas of quality control, I had to give some actual examples from mine.

Originally Posted by midnighter

I am lower/middle class so to me my Camaro is a lot of joy for me and I have no complaints.

[The_Blur]

This vehicle is used, and you left the dealership with the vehicle in this condition. That's not on GM or the previous owner. It's all on you. You paid for it this way. If you wanted it fixed, then that should have been part of the negotiation.

[ebaugh1990]

OP, you shouldn't be this dissatisfied with your car. My L99 burns the tires even with traction control ON.

I think there may be something wrong with the car, either electronically or mechanically.

[civdiv99]

I'll go with "maybe you missed the point here" on this one.

Originally Posted by The_Blur

This vehicle is used, and you left the dealership with the vehicle in this condition. That's not on GM or the previous owner. It's all on you. You paid for it this way. If you wanted it fixed, then that should have been part of the negotiation.

[Michael2000]

Originally Posted by ebaugh1990

OP, you shouldn't be this dissatisfied with your car. My L99 burns the tires even with traction control ON.

I think there may be something wrong with the car, either electronically or mechanically.

Is that in "D" or "S" mode on the transmission?

Michael

[Angrybird 12]

A couple thousand miles in a couple years??? Do you ever get it out on the highway for extended trips or just run around town? You are not driving it enough and maybe the gas is breaking down. Run it down until the low fuel light comes on and then put a tank of premimum in and also some fuel injector cleaner, run that tank out as gas as you can and refill it with premimum again. You need to be driving more in my opinion,

[civdiv99]

Ok, this is exactly why I asked. But for posting, I would have no idea if this was an anomaly or not. And i share your feelings about having this dealt with locally. Just not so comfy.

Originally Posted by TJ91

Fuse 5 and 20
And yeah the build quality can be bad from car to car
I have a brutal gap between driver door and dash. It could easily be fixed but my dealer would screw it up for sure
I have had a shit load of warranty work done on mine and it continues to have the same problems. If i wasn't soo obsessed with camaros and mine in particular, I would've traded it along time ago.
But for now ill deal with all the warranty work

[civdiv99]

I listed 5 items. I consider 2 of them subjective (the dash to door gap, and the throttle response). The other three are objective and specific examples on this car.

Of the 2 subjective items, the general sense is that this is indeed typical.
One poster referred to his door/dash gap as "brutal."

As for buying something else, that wasn't the point.

Originally Posted by Desert Stealth

We love our two new Camaro convertibles (one for me and one for my wife). Each has about 5,000 miles and we've owned them for 2 months. I cannot relate to your post in any way. From "fit and finsih" to "engine and performance" we are completely satisfied. If I ever had the feeling towards my cars that you have towards yours, I'd be back at the dealer making a swap. You've owned a car you don't like for two years?

Something is very wrong with your post or your car.

[civdiv99]

Yeah, working on it. Dealer is not real responsive to subjective concerns, like the throttle response. The window thing has been a fiasco and finally someone from GM called me. But shouldn't have gone that far, and anyway was included as it is not a subjective thing. It is, however, infuriatingly intermittent.

I'm thinking show up in a different car for a "test drive" of a new Camaro and see what I think.

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

If you believe your car has issues...you have a warranty. Please visit the dealer and use it.

In a mass-produced product....(even in a hand-built product!) you cannot expect to have 100% perfection in each and every vehicle. Sometimes "lemons" (not in the legal sense) slip through. This is why manufacturer's offer a warranty.

[civdiv99]

Only highway trips, mountain drives, etc. usually. Around town runarounds not typical.

Car parked and covered from about mid October through maybe April with just some stabilizer in the tank anyway.

Regular driving in the spring doesn't change the behavior.

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

A couple thousand miles in a couple years??? Do you ever get it out on the highway for extended trips or just run around town? You are not driving it enough and maybe the gas is breaking down. Run it down until the low fuel light comes on and then put a tank of premimum in and also some fuel injector cleaner, run that tank out as gas as you can and refill it with premimum again. You need to be driving more in my opinion,

[Brandonss]

My Camaro is a 2012 2ss/RS A6 and it has no mods .... some times with power it has is kinda spooks me a bit ... It is up to 85 mph in the blink of an eye ... just fast am I not right

[ebaugh1990]

Originally Posted by Michael2000

Is that in "D" or "S" mode on the transmission?

Michael

D mode. It starts off in 2nd, but if I floor it from a stop it downshifts then takes off.

S mode is just nasty

[ebaugh1990]

Originally Posted by Brandonss

My Camaro is a 2012 2ss/RS A6 and it has no mods .... some times with power it has is kinda spooks me a bit ... It is up to 85 mph in the blink of an eye ... just fast am I not right

I agree, my L99 is quick to get up to speed. The throttle response is insane.

Do you have AFM tuned out?

[buckeyemike]

Originally Posted by ajax.

And if people don't gripe it will only get worse. I have a 2006 Charger as my daily driver on I-95 weekly for 500miles roundtrip and the Yellow paint has not once chipped/scratched/defected in any way shape or form. Not to mention it has 55,000 miles on it. No excuses here for a 40k car, especially when it has 2000 miles on it and I use more touch up paint than I do fuel.

That wasn't really the point... people just act like it's their specific car with shitty paint, and EVERY CAR HAS SHITTY PAINT NOW.