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OHIOSS · 10-26-2015, 02:53 PM

I never drove a manual with a short throw shifter so looking for some advice. What is good about having it, are there any negatives/cons to having it?

I have a gift card that expires at the end of the month and I can't think of anything I want/need so I am thinking about buying the short throw kit. Is this something that an amateur can install?

Russ

djcfuzz · 10-26-2015, 09:35 PM

I have the MGW short throw and highly recommend. It provides a tighter quicker feel. You can install this. Getting it on a lift is much easier but plenty have done it on jack stands.

OHIOSS · 10-27-2015, 02:00 PM

Only one person has a comment? I was hoping for more opinions than just one.

Venomous · 10-27-2015, 02:12 PM

I was wanting one too. Didn't know you had to get under the car. That's a plus to know.

caveman · 10-30-2015, 01:22 AM

I also have the MGW and I love it. I couldn't be happier. it makes a huge difference. and I did do it with jack stands and it still wasn't bad. I think it took 2-3 hrs.

I did a lot of research before I bought one. I just know the hurst has ALOT of play and a lot of ppl dont recommend that one. that's why you see everyone trying to sell them. im not trying to bash on anyone, that's just the results that I found.

RichSS2006 · 10-30-2015, 06:28 AM

Russ, I have a Hurst. I know a lot of people complain about them, but I couldn't be happier. I don't beat the living hell out of it daily though. The Delrin bushings wear out when subjected to severe duty.(drag racing). Hurst makes an upgraded bushing kit to help solve this problem.
The shifts are much more precise than the original GM shifter. I have a 2010. Later years came with a Hurst from the factory.
It took about an hour to install. I was using a lift though, but could just as easily done it laying down under with jack stands. Good luck, Rich

splashlog48 · 10-30-2015, 07:56 PM

I've got the Hurst too and like it a Lot.
4 years now and no problemo

NGC660 · 10-31-2015, 12:17 PM

i have the stock hurst on an SS. My only complaint is it feels very stiff sometimes. Granted this is the first stick shift car that i have owned but every other stick kind of glided into place. i feel like i almost have to force it sometimes. its not too big of a deal just driving casually but when i try and step on it and shift my left hand jerks the wheel slightly because i have to push/pull so hard with my right. Not sure if fits the bushings or what. i do plan on swapping it out eventually though. im tired of popping tendons in my hand when shifting into 2/4/6. it does not feel good. i'm not sure if this is just mine or all of the factory hursts but it almost feels like it clicks in twice in the lower gears. meaning i feel a little resistance and then it will pop into gear.

but again this could just be mine. i havent driven any other m6 camaros with a hurst.

Merc · 10-31-2015, 01:58 PM

MGW pro's only no con's.

pistolgripcopo1 · 11-04-2015, 09:15 PM

The Barton short throw shifter has less moving parts and the range is shorter then most and a therty day money back guarenty easy to install

OHIOSS · 11-12-2015, 10:03 PM

I have a Barton aluminum pistol grip shift handle I would like to keep. I am going to contact Barton to see which short throw unit I need to buy.

Looks like there are no cons to short throw shifter unit.

Thanks for the info guys!

Russ

ytown87 · 11-13-2015, 08:43 AM

Cons = Zilch
Pros = Many

Get the short throw shifter. You wont regret. I have the HURST with white ball 40% reduction. Night and day difference over stock. Some don't like the HURST but I love mine. Zero noise issues and I like that I can feel/hear it click into each gear without question.

swiftkart · 11-13-2015, 11:34 AM

Had a Hurst and loved the old school look, but it shifted way too hard, switched to a MGW and it shifts butter smooth and a lot better for racing, Hurst you had to force it in at high rpm and made shifting slow, MGW it seems to just fall into gear and you can shift a lot quicker.

MGW best period, having had the Hurst with white ball, if anyone with a Hurst ever drove a car with a MGW, you would ditch the Hurst quickly, not even in the same league as a MGW.

OHIOSS · 11-13-2015, 08:26 PM

I have never heard of MGW, thanks for the letting me know about them. As long as I'm able to keep my Barton pistol grip handle I will be checking MGW out.

I did get an email back from Dave @ Barton telling me which one I should buy so I will be comparing pricing.

10-26-2015, 02:53 PM	#1
OHIOSS Russ Drives: Yukon Denali, Charger, CamaroSS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,811	Short throw shifters, pros & cons? I never drove a manual with a short throw shifter so looking for some advice. What is good about having it, are there any negatives/cons to having it? I have a gift card that expires at the end of the month and I can't think of anything I want/need so I am thinking about buying the short throw kit. Is this something that an amateur can install? Russ

10-26-2015, 09:35 PM	#2
djcfuzz Do somethin fun every day Drives: 2012 45th V6 RS M6 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Port, FL Posts: 1,012 View My Garage	I have the MGW short throw and highly recommend. It provides a tighter quicker feel. You can install this. Getting it on a lift is much easier but plenty have done it on jack stands. __________________ My garage: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/camaro...=view&id=16627

10-27-2015, 02:12 PM	#4
Venomous Drives: 2015 Silver Camaro 1lt RS M6 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: DFW Posts: 286	I was wanting one too. Didn't know you had to get under the car. That's a plus to know. __________________ Cold air induction cai, ported throttle body, Vitesse Throttle Control, Oracle Ghosted LED side markers

10-30-2015, 06:28 AM	#6
RichSS2006 Drives: 2010 2SSRS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 506 View My Garage	Russ, I have a Hurst. I know a lot of people complain about them, but I couldn't be happier. I don't beat the living hell out of it daily though. The Delrin bushings wear out when subjected to severe duty.(drag racing). Hurst makes an upgraded bushing kit to help solve this problem. The shifts are much more precise than the original GM shifter. I have a 2010. Later years came with a Hurst from the factory. It took about an hour to install. I was using a lift though, but could just as easily done it laying down under with jack stands. Good luck, Rich __________________ No longer stock, but oooh so much more fun!

10-31-2015, 01:58 PM	#9
Merc In The Circle Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SSRS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 11,291	MGW pro's only no con's. __________________ My Build Thread

10-27-2015, 02:00 PM	#3
OHIOSS Russ Drives: Yukon Denali, Charger, CamaroSS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,811	Only one person has a comment? I was hoping for more opinions than just one.

10-30-2015, 01:22 AM	#5
caveman Drives: 2012 Camaro 1SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: GA Posts: 19	I also have the MGW and I love it. I couldn't be happier. it makes a huge difference. and I did do it with jack stands and it still wasn't bad. I think it took 2-3 hrs. I did a lot of research before I bought one. I just know the hurst has ALOT of play and a lot of ppl dont recommend that one. that's why you see everyone trying to sell them. im not trying to bash on anyone, that's just the results that I found.

10-30-2015, 07:56 PM	#7
splashlog48 Drives: 2011 Green SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: CleveBurbs Ohio Posts: 669	I've got the Hurst too and like it a Lot. 4 years now and no problemo

10-31-2015, 12:17 PM	#8
NGC660 Drives: 2012 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Brockton, MA Posts: 116	i have the stock hurst on an SS. My only complaint is it feels very stiff sometimes. Granted this is the first stick shift car that i have owned but every other stick kind of glided into place. i feel like i almost have to force it sometimes. its not too big of a deal just driving casually but when i try and step on it and shift my left hand jerks the wheel slightly because i have to push/pull so hard with my right. Not sure if fits the bushings or what. i do plan on swapping it out eventually though. im tired of popping tendons in my hand when shifting into 2/4/6. it does not feel good. i'm not sure if this is just mine or all of the factory hursts but it almost feels like it clicks in twice in the lower gears. meaning i feel a little resistance and then it will pop into gear. but again this could just be mine. i havent driven any other m6 camaros with a hurst.

11-04-2015, 09:15 PM	#10
pistolgripcopo1 pistolgripcopo1 Drives: 2010 SS Camaro Carbon fiber gray Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Corona Ca. Posts: 403	The Barton short throw shifter has less moving parts and the range is shorter then most and a therty day money back guarenty easy to install __________________

11-12-2015, 10:03 PM	#11
OHIOSS Russ Drives: Yukon Denali, Charger, CamaroSS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,811	I have a Barton aluminum pistol grip shift handle I would like to keep. I am going to contact Barton to see which short throw unit I need to buy. Looks like there are no cons to short throw shifter unit. Thanks for the info guys! Russ

11-13-2015, 08:43 AM	#12
ytown87 Drives: C6 Corvette Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,264	Cons = Zilch Pros = Many Get the short throw shifter. You wont regret. I have the HURST with white ball 40% reduction. Night and day difference over stock. Some don't like the HURST but I love mine. Zero noise issues and I like that I can feel/hear it click into each gear without question. __________________ 2008 C6 m6. Carbon creations front/rear carbon fiber wodebody fenders. Carbon fiber hood carbon fiber roof hoop carbon fiber zr1 extreme spoiler. NW 102mm tb. Ported intake manifold. Cometic .040 head gaskets. LG motorsports G6x3 cam. DSX flex fuel sensor. AEM methanol kit. Z06 brakes. Ebiach sway bars. ZR1 rep wheels and Nitto Invo tires. Monster stage 3 twin disc clutch. MGW short shifter. Corbeau race seats. Gforce race harnesses. SLP loudmouth 2 mufflers. Carbon fiber exhaust tips. RPM stage 4 transmission and Stage 3 rear diff. 3.73 gears. Vararam cai. Kooks 1 7/8 headers and x-pipe.

11-13-2015, 11:34 AM	#13
swiftkart Drives: 2010 SS/RS LS3 M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 693	Had a Hurst and loved the old school look, but it shifted way too hard, switched to a MGW and it shifts butter smooth and a lot better for racing, Hurst you had to force it in at high rpm and made shifting slow, MGW it seems to just fall into gear and you can shift a lot quicker. MGW best period, having had the Hurst with white ball, if anyone with a Hurst ever drove a car with a MGW, you would ditch the Hurst quickly, not even in the same league as a MGW.

11-13-2015, 08:26 PM	#14
OHIOSS Russ Drives: Yukon Denali, Charger, CamaroSS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,811	I have never heard of MGW, thanks for the letting me know about them. As long as I'm able to keep my Barton pistol grip handle I will be checking MGW out. I did get an email back from Dave @ Barton telling me which one I should buy so I will be comparing pricing.