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Battle_Camaro · 08-30-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

These cars are so wierd on dyno's and every dyno seems to read a big variation. The tach signal is very important and Chris has a DynoJet 248X (was the top of their line and I used to have one) so having the 4' rollers is probably allowing it to read better as the little roller one we use now (new AWD eddy current loaded Mustang on order) we see a resonance or harmonic that causes the knock sensors to interpet as knock and pull timing so we can be at 5# boost and see mid 300's and then turn up to 10 and not see much diff, but out on the road or dragstrip the diff in power is night and day. A shop w/ a eddy current loaded at 15% that seemed toread more accurate (60 RWHP and near that in TQ more! same system/year/trans/SC) so that seems to be one answer to get these to read accurate when we get up there so that is an issue getting accurate dyno readings on these.

Either way, the car is making huge power and even if the tq is off quite a bit, it is still a huge gain. I declare this a success for chris, HPS, and the owner (another male Tracy!!! Go figure!). I'm sure this car will kick plenty of V8 butt. Good job Chris!! And for the impatient, it was worth the wait for this owner.

Well said Tracy.

speedmon · 08-31-2012, 12:43 AM

This is good stuff......his numbers are entirely possible......barring the conflicts.
I've seen Porsche 3.6's (and now 3.8s) at 600rwhp on 91 octane.

The camaro V6 is a DOHC 4V motor with characteristics similar to the Porsche.

Just imagine that camaro V6 with forged pistons, high lift cams, turbo"ed" and screaming down the track at 8000 rpms..........neeeeeeeeeooooooow!

Would make a great club racer.

And those V6s are cheap! Almost disposable.......

Can the trans hold that kind of power?

SC2150 · 08-31-2012, 08:56 AM

So far the only failure was a A6 that aready was bad (burnt fluid, GM OEM converter was failing). Other than that both manual and auto's are doing well...even w/stall converter. But they will be a weak link.

The clutch on the other hand will fail. Good thing is there are after market units and Chris should post up his solution soon I expect.

Can't_C_Me · 08-31-2012, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

So far the only failure was a A6 that aready was bad (burnt fluid, GM OEM converter was failing). Other than that both manual and auto's are doing well...even w/stall converter. But they will be a weak link.

The clutch on the other hand will fail. Good thing is there are after market units and Chris should post up his solution soon I expect.

I agree with Tracy, my M6 transmission is stock and all Tracy did was change my fluids to full syn. I been beat the crap out of my car and it's holding up great. I am going to change the fluids again soon as I can just tell it's time with the beaten I been giving her. But am also looking at getting Tracy's upgraded clutch soon. maybe after or during my Cam and Head install. Also change the rear diff to full syn.

hunterv6 · 08-31-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Can't_C_Me

I agree with Tracy, my M6 transmission is stock and all Tracy did was change my fluids to full syn. I been beat the crap out of my car and it's holding up great. I am going to change the fluids again soon as I can just tell it's time with the beaten I been giving her. But am also looking at getting Tracy's upgraded clutch soon. maybe after or during my Cam and Head install. Also change the rear diff to full syn.

Can't that some go info I was worry about the clutch holding up. Also was looking into clutch options so Tracy has a upgrade I didnt know that guess my search is over will have to talk to him about it.

blackTT600 · 08-31-2012, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Can't_C_Me

I agree with Tracy, my M6 transmission is stock and all Tracy did was change my fluids to full syn. I been beat the crap out of my car and it's holding up great. I am going to change the fluids again soon as I can just tell it's time with the beaten I been giving her. But am also looking at getting Tracy's upgraded clutch soon. maybe after or during my Cam and Head install. Also change the rear diff to full syn.

how manny miles? before and after FI?? I am at like 30,000 and I think its starting to louse it. clutch that is..

TastyBake · 08-31-2012, 02:16 PM

I'm glad I read the whole thread. I'll wait until the tach reading issue is resolved.

I don't believe its making 87% more torque from a single turbo. I agree its probably making at most 420 rwtq which is 53% more, tops. That will still be a tremendous success!! Even lower than that is still great.

Someone asked a good question. Did you run a baseline dyno? Was there any rpm issues then?

christianmotox · 08-31-2012, 02:23 PM

What was the Baseline dyno readings?

SwitchBlade · 08-31-2012, 03:27 PM

To my knowledge, Chris did not do a baseline dyno.

Can't_C_Me · 08-31-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterv6

Can't that some go info I was worry about the clutch holding up. Also was looking into clutch options so Tracy has a upgrade I didnt know that guess my search is over will have to talk to him about it.

Yep Tracy has a upgrade clutch. I was going to get it when he was building, but he told me not to just yet because my car only had 5,000 miles.

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Originally Posted by blackTT600

how manny miles? before and after FI?? I am at like 30,000 and I think its starting to louse it. clutch that is..

I had 5,000 miles before and I'm at 16,484 now. Not bad for a almost 2 year old car.

Alrighty Then · 08-31-2012, 04:05 PM

Can't wait for some driving vids!

Yellow_Glide · 08-31-2012, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Can't_C_Me

Yep Tracy has a upgrade clutch.
I had 5,000 miles before and I'm at 16,484 now. Not bad for a almost 2 year old car.

Didn't know Tracy had a clutch kit.. I'm at 18k miles and had the car 14 months!

blackTT600 · 08-31-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Can't_C_Me

I had 5,000 miles before and I'm at 16,484 now. Not bad for a almost 2 year old car.

almost at two years

already 30,000

no FI

YET

thinking a new clutch might be needed.

I guess its a wait and see process.

SC2150 · 08-31-2012, 08:07 PM

Any way you look at it the HPS turbo is a success IMHO.

08-31-2012, 02:23 PM	#148
christianmotox Drives: ( . )( . ) Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,827	What was the Baseline dyno readings? __________________

08-31-2012, 12:43 AM	#142
speedmon Drives: C6 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 572	This is good stuff......his numbers are entirely possible......barring the conflicts. I've seen Porsche 3.6's (and now 3.8s) at 600rwhp on 91 octane. The camaro V6 is a DOHC 4V motor with characteristics similar to the Porsche. Just imagine that camaro V6 with forged pistons, high lift cams, turbo"ed" and screaming down the track at 8000 rpms..........neeeeeeeeeooooooow! Would make a great club racer. And those V6s are cheap! Almost disposable....... Can the trans hold that kind of power?

08-31-2012, 08:56 AM	#143
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	So far the only failure was a A6 that aready was bad (burnt fluid, GM OEM converter was failing). Other than that both manual and auto's are doing well...even w/stall converter. But they will be a weak link. The clutch on the other hand will fail. Good thing is there are after market units and Chris should post up his solution soon I expect.

08-31-2012, 02:16 PM	#147
TastyBake Drives: 2011 Camaro 2LT/RS Black Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 973	I'm glad I read the whole thread. I'll wait until the tach reading issue is resolved. I don't believe its making 87% more torque from a single turbo. I agree its probably making at most 420 rwtq which is 53% more, tops. That will still be a tremendous success!! Even lower than that is still great. Someone asked a good question. Did you run a baseline dyno? Was there any rpm issues then?

08-31-2012, 03:27 PM	#149
SwitchBlade Drives: 2010 1LT Camaro Silver Ice Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 118 View My Garage	To my knowledge, Chris did not do a baseline dyno.

08-31-2012, 04:05 PM	#151
Alrighty Then Drives: 2010 V6 M6 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 72	Can't wait for some driving vids!

08-31-2012, 08:07 PM	#154
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	Any way you look at it the HPS turbo is a success IMHO.