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Old 06-28-2013, 04:27 PM   #701
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Would rather see a turbo 8 option than a turbo 4 option.
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I agree, still can't figure why no one will compare turbo V6 to turbo 4 on this thread. Any performance (HP and TQ) you get from FI of a 4 banger, you can get with FI V6 or FI V8.
Forgive me if I miss-understand, but I think the appropriate response to these comments is "DUH".

The whole point is to create an efficient and powerful engine. Not too win HP wars. Of course anyone that cares about power will want a turbo V6 or turbo V8 over a turbo 4.....but if that person's budget doesn't allow for that then they will be glad to see an option for them that isn't completely boring to drive either.

Why would we compare a T8 or a T6 to a T4?

Sorry I just don't understand your comments I guess.
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:56 PM   #702
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well I have a twin turbo 8, and I love it...yoot yoot
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:10 PM   #703
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I thought they have a 4cyl Camaro. Isn't called an L99?
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:33 PM   #704
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I would say several reasons ( though these are not for me )

1 - cheaper than a V8
2 - better fuel economy
3 - not everybody modifies their car for racing, some people like low/mild power
4 - why drive a Prius when you could drive something with similar fuel economy and the looks of a Camaro?

Does not mean I think like that.
But some people do. And if there is a market for it, why not make a car for it?
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:01 PM   #705
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so they can VTEC it yo. so vtec can kick in, because people who talk about vtec are COMPELTELY AWARE that almost every car since 2000 that has fuel injection effectively has "vtec"

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Old 06-29-2013, 05:30 AM   #706
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Forgive me if I miss-understand, but I think the appropriate response to these comments is "DUH".

The whole point is to create an efficient and powerful engine. Not too win HP wars. Of course anyone that cares about power will want a turbo V6 or turbo V8 over a turbo 4.....but if that person's budget doesn't allow for that then they will be glad to see an option for them that isn't completely boring to drive either.

Why would we compare a T8 or a T6 to a T4?

Sorry I just don't understand your comments I guess.
Many here are comparing high end turbo 4s to NA v6 in terms of HP and TQ. THAT is what I'm talking about. If you are just after gas mileage, how did you say it? Duh. Buy a Prius or a turbo diesel Cruze. With around 48 mpg. You don't get to compare FI to NA then when someone points out you can mod anything, or slap a turbocharger on a V6 then claim it's only to create a efficient engine.
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:42 AM   #707
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so they can VTEC it yo. so vtec can kick in, because people who talk about vtec are COMPELTELY AWARE that almost every car since 2000 that has fuel injection effectively has "vtec"

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VTEC is variable valve timing, not fuel injection.
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:39 AM   #708
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VTEC is variable valve timing, not fuel injection.
He is correct. Most cars have variable valve timing. However there has not been a production carbed vehicle since 1991, so not sure why he was tying fuel injection into variable timing.
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:22 AM   #709
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I want a 4 cylinder inline transverse mounted engine powering the front wheels in the Gen 6 Camaro as the only engine choice, just to piss some of you guys off
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:23 AM   #710
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so they can VTEC it yo. so vtec can kick in, because people who talk about vtec are COMPELTELY AWARE that almost every car since 2000 that has fuel injection effectively has "vtec"

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VTEC is variable valve timing, not fuel injection.
I'm not a Honda guy but VTEC is a LOT more than variable valve timing. For it's day, VTEC was one of the most incredible engine advances for a tiny little 4 banger since the overhead cam. It varies timing yes, but also has two totally separate cam profiles. The "VTEC kicked in yo!" people are mostly idiots but VTEC remains much more technologically advanced than other variable valve timing systems outside of extremely high end cars.



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This thread just keeps on and keeps on lol.

It should be no shock to anyone here that a turbo 4 could run with or outrun a V6. Performance oriented turbo 4 engines these days are making 280 - 320 HP and that same amount in torque and also makes that torque at low rpms.

Compare that to a V6 which makes plenty of HP 323HP, but just 278 TQ and you can easily see how the turbo 4 could be quicker.

Throw a tune on the turbo 4 and suddenly your looking at TQ numbers closer to 400.

Yes right now the rumor mill seems to think the Mustang base car will be the V6, with the T4 being an optional engine which likely will have more torque, and better highway gas mileage.

I'd guess that GM is doing the same.
Yup. As long as there is always a bad a$$ v-8 performer to keep the spirit of this car alive who cares how many different engines they offer trying to get more sales? More sales equals never having to suffer through another hiatus like between 4th and 5th gens.
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:25 AM   #711
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I want a 4 cylinder inline transverse mounted engine powering the front wheels in the Gen 6 Camaro as the only engine choice, just to piss some of you guys off
Sounds good! Lets have one in front and one in back!
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:07 PM   #712
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4 - why drive a Prius when you could drive something with similar fuel economy and the looks of a Camaro?
I have reminded my friends with a V6 Accord and a V6 Camry that I get about the same MPG as they do. And absolutely nobody turns their head when they drive by.

(actually I think my highway is a bit better, not EPA but actual)

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Old 06-30-2013, 06:39 PM   #713
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The V6 owners are the ones wanting a 4 banger. Don't let it effect you.
I don't understand why V8 owners have to be such total pricks about it.
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:32 AM   #714
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Forgive me if I miss-understand, but I think the appropriate response to these comments is "DUH".

The whole point is to create an efficient and powerful engine. Not too win HP wars. Of course anyone that cares about power will want a turbo V6 or turbo V8 over a turbo 4.....but if that person's budget doesn't allow for that then they will be glad to see an option for them that isn't completely boring to drive either.

Why would we compare a T8 or a T6 to a T4?

Sorry I just don't understand your comments I guess.
And I don't understand yours. You assume the T4 is going to cost less than our current V6 or be more fuel efficient, or both. Big assumption. It's probably only being offered because of Europe's displacement regulations. My guess is it will cost more and be pretty similar to the current V6 in MPG's and perform slightly worse than the current V6.
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