10-20-2017, 03:36 PM | #1 |
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LSA vs Procharger kit. What to go with?
What would you guys go with and why? I'm thinking of either buying a complete lsa kit off a guy or piecing together a D1sc procharger kit. It looks like I will have about 1k more in the D1sc kit piecing it together. I can get the LSA kit for $3400 and the D1sc kit looks like it will be around $4400 to piece it together..
Are the LSA blowers pretty efficient? I know the procharger's advantage is that the procharger keep's the IAT's down a little better the the LSA... I'm wanting to run around 10psi boost and run a mid-low 11 sec 1/4 mile around 120mph. I'm leaning toward the LSA because I can still sell my LS3 intake, injectors, and CAI to recoop a little $ spent on the kit and I won't have to worry about removing the stock balancer as it will work with the lsa blower. + I have had a few procharger kits and kinda want to see what a top mount blower is like. Give me your opinions!
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10-20-2017, 03:39 PM | #2 |
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Either will get you to your current goals. The A P1SC and an LSa will max out near the same WHP; a D1SC or F1A obviously gives you more room to grow if you wanted to upgrade the head unit later.
Basically, if you know you're going to be good at 650-700whp then an LSA probably makes sense, if there's a chance you might want more than that later go Procharger IMO. |
10-20-2017, 04:25 PM | #3 |
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LSA if you are really going to stop at 10psi. Buuuuuuut that is super rare. It's an addiction and everybody always wants more. All your buddies and competition will have more and that makes you want it even worse.
Also for these reasons you might plan ahead for like an ECS kit or even bigger blower. Last time we had a D1sc kit traded in we couldn't hardly give it away cause nobody wanted that small of a blower. The small entry level blowers seem to constantly change hands around the used market casue they are just enough to wet your appetite. |
10-20-2017, 04:33 PM | #4 | |
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10-20-2017, 09:06 PM | #5 | ||
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I just sold my low 10 sec turbo car for this 5th gen for the creature comforts though lol. I have had the mod addiction bad for about 10 years! Trying to find a happy medium between full out race car and street car. Something I can still take everywhere, but still have a good amount of power. Just doing research I think a d1sc or an lsa will be plenty for my goals. I don't PLAN to upgrade transmission or any drive train for awhile so I figure I should be making plenty of hp for my setup with an LSA or D1sc blower. I ran low 11's with my p1sc vette on 8psi. I figure on this setup with a little more boost and bigger blower I could probably get a low 11@120+ out of it. And that's probably where I should stop for now anyway. Leaning towards the LSA still, but yesterday I was thinking D1sc so we will see what I think tomorrow. Keep the comments coming I enjoy reading everybody's opinions
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10-21-2017, 10:59 AM | #6 |
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You should definitely go with the LSA and look for a package deal:
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10-21-2017, 11:58 AM | #7 |
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I suppose that was a bit harsh, though I really just meant it in fun. Truth is that one of the mechanics at my speed shop has an LSA blower on a G8 that runs in the 9's. It all depends on your supporting mods. As others have stated, its not always about horse power, though your not going to get it done without horse power. Sound confusing?
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10-21-2017, 12:55 PM | #8 |
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I was gonna say, be careful BiggFoot...... RWHP does not = Fast
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10-21-2017, 01:36 PM | #9 |
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I’d ck the fast list:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21013 You can see who has what and their times. That can help... BTW, I have the ADM LSA kit — but WAAAAAAAAY past stock ;o)... -Don
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10-21-2017, 02:34 PM | #10 |
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I'm not making close to some of those centri or turbo cars.
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10-21-2017, 06:03 PM | #11 |
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Truth be told I would get a d1sc kit. I went with the p1sc and now I’m sending it back this winter for a d1x rebuild. My guy at Procharger said they have some cars making 930 rwhp, for me that’s plenty. If you get to the point where you would need more you’ll have to change everything anyway, so might as well get the best blower that’s overkill right now.
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10-22-2017, 12:16 PM | #12 |
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Not to hijack the thread but I am kind of in the same boat as sweet99ss. I have been tossing around the idea of a LSA swap, Procharger kit from Brutespeed, or the ECS Novi kit. I have read both positive and negative things about ECS so it puts me at "WTF do I do" lol I already have a new ECS BAP sitting around. Im looking for a little more now with potential to go bigger later (forged motor, etc.)
LSA is cheaper but will I be happy with it? ECS seems to be priced good and have read of the novi putting down some good numbers. (I wouldnt use their tuning, Id have it tuned locally at a shop near me) Or do I say screw and just go for a f1a-94?? ohh decisions.
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Man we are all in the same boat, I've been looking between the LSA,ECS, and the Whipple kit. I've been reading that the LSA kit was a good kit and could make great power ie. look at all the CTS-V's out here with the same blower. But as it was stated earlier the ECS is a great price, the Whipple kit is as a good kit to make big power. What do I do? |
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10-23-2017, 01:08 PM | #14 | |
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I was going to go with a Whipple but then went with a centri (YSi)...
Here is one reason why: Whipple jumps out front but the D-1SC reels him in pretty quick...
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