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05-20-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Iam Broke

Let us know how it works out on the E38 ECU. All it does is guesstimate the ethanol content via LTFT shift.

Already seen it work flawlessly on a zr1. Haven't tried a 5th gen. Camaro yet.

Iam Broke · 05-20-2013, 12:33 PM

The ZL1 uses a different ECU iirc, pretty sure the ZR1 does also. (E67)

litle88 · 05-20-2013, 12:40 PM

Hmm good info fellas! I'm liking this thread. Thanks

Rhino79 · 05-20-2013, 01:22 PM

I have an e85 tune setup for my car (e38). I am close to maxxing pump and injectors(stock) at 503 rwhp through an auto. I was gonna run e85 in Louisiana but its slim pickings down there!!

Alvin@PCMofNC · 05-20-2013, 01:24 PM

Which ethanol content sensor are you using? I don't know of a sensor GM is using since the Gen 3 days (that sensor was expensive and had a lot of problems, wouldn't last long)

I wouldn't trust virtual ethanol content sensor in a performance car. Its not a sensor rather a guess biased off of fuel trims.

Iam Broke · 05-20-2013, 01:26 PM

10 stations around me and 15 miles from the Corn Plant. Local stations test at 85% May through Oct, then tapers to E70 for the winter. Always best to test it though.

Iam Broke · 05-20-2013, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alvin@PCMofNC

Which ethanol content sensor are you using? I don't know of a sensor GM is using since the Gen 3 days (that sensor was expensive and had a lot of problems, wouldn't last long)

I wouldn't trust virtual ethanol content sensor in a performance car. Its not a sensor rather a guess biased off of fuel trims.

Check the HPTuners Gen 4 thread. DSteck lists several sensors. He offered to do a kit for me but since I run it in the garage queen all the time it'd be pointless.

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showth...8-E67-addition

rahallfly · 05-21-2013, 08:05 PM

I researched this a lot when i thought about converting over. The simple reason i didnt is because of the loss of Gas mileage and the fact that here E85 is 10 cents cheaper than gas so it dont add up. But if i lived where gas was still super expensive and E85 was cheaper and readily available i would have switched. There is power to gain from it! But there is also the fact it is hard to find, and if you cant you cant just swap to gas on the fly.

Camper · 05-21-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 429

Camper all the stock lines are ptfe or steel, and the bucket and engine bay lines are viton (ethanol wont hurt them). There isn't any rubber in the system.

then I stand corrected!

Rhino79 · 05-21-2013, 08:37 PM

EFILive has a custom operating system and info in the help files about wiring up a 12v+ switch to an unused pin that activates once you flip the switch. When you upgrade your os, you have more tables available that are already in the current file, just not used. This is available for my autocal customers and is pretty straight forward to do.

Iam Broke · 05-21-2013, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rahallfly

I researched this a lot when i thought about converting over. The simple reason i didnt is because of the loss of Gas mileage and the fact that here E85 is 10 cents cheaper than gas so it dont add up. But if i lived where gas was still super expensive and E85 was cheaper and readily available i would have switched. There is power to gain from it! But there is also the fact it is hard to find, and if you cant you cant just swap to gas on the fly.

E85 is $2.99/gal here and E10 93 is currently $4.29 - 4.59/gal. I dropped from ~19 mpg to 14.5 but it's just my toy anyway. My DD is a 4 banger that gets 34 mpg. lol.

BTW, it takes me about 1 min to swap tunes with HPTuners if I ever need to.

snk8bte01 · 06-30-2017, 01:25 AM

So what was the end of this forum? Was it possible to run e85 on our stock fuel systems

camrytt · 06-30-2017, 10:11 AM

You just need the e85 kit, pin activated and tuned to run it. I had a 15ish hp gain when I was just at normal bolt ons. You don't need to do anything with fuel pumps etc until over 500, basically

snk8bte01 · 10-06-2017, 03:48 PM

WHERE CAN I FIND THIS KIT? IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A KIT AND FOUND NOTHNG....

05-20-2013, 12:33 PM	#16
Iam Broke PHAT B33 Drives: 2012 TF3 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Dark of the Moon Posts: 1,460 View My Garage	The ZL1 uses a different ECU iirc, pretty sure the ZR1 does also. (E67) __________________ Another 1 of 371 '12 T3 LS3 M6's built.

05-20-2013, 12:40 PM	#17
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Hmm good info fellas! I'm liking this thread. Thanks __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

05-20-2013, 01:26 PM	#20
Iam Broke PHAT B33 Drives: 2012 TF3 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Dark of the Moon Posts: 1,460 View My Garage	10 stations around me and 15 miles from the Corn Plant. Local stations test at 85% May through Oct, then tapers to E70 for the winter. Always best to test it though. __________________ Another 1 of 371 '12 T3 LS3 M6's built.

05-21-2013, 08:05 PM	#22
rahallfly Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Mansfield Ohio Posts: 267	I researched this a lot when i thought about converting over. The simple reason i didnt is because of the loss of Gas mileage and the fact that here E85 is 10 cents cheaper than gas so it dont add up. But if i lived where gas was still super expensive and E85 was cheaper and readily available i would have switched. There is power to gain from it! But there is also the fact it is hard to find, and if you cant you cant just swap to gas on the fly. __________________ TSP VVT2, OBX LTs Catless mids, Flowmaster, Half K&N, Half Fastlane Pipeline CAI, Tuned by RDP Motorsports! Thats the main fun adders SHAKE ANNNNNNND BAKE!!!!!

06-30-2017, 01:25 AM	#26
snk8bte01 04 TERMINATOR Drives: 2004 COBRA/12 CAMARO SS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: SANTA ANA Posts: 43	So what was the end of this forum? Was it possible to run e85 on our stock fuel systems __________________ 2004 MUSTANG COBRA PULLIED UPR O/R X PIPE MAC CATBACK K&N CAI 458 RWHP 485RWTQ 12 LBS 2012 CAMARO SS DYNATECH LONG TUBES CUSTOM X PIPE CAI(UNKNOWN BRAND) 3.91 GEARS 425RWHP/428RWTQ

05-20-2013, 01:22 PM	#18
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	I have an e85 tune setup for my car (e38). I am close to maxxing pump and injectors(stock) at 503 rwhp through an auto. I was gonna run e85 in Louisiana but its slim pickings down there!!

05-20-2013, 01:24 PM	#19
Alvin@PCMofNC Drives: 2010 IOM RSS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mooresville Posts: 363	Which ethanol content sensor are you using? I don't know of a sensor GM is using since the Gen 3 days (that sensor was expensive and had a lot of problems, wouldn't last long) I wouldn't trust virtual ethanol content sensor in a performance car. Its not a sensor rather a guess biased off of fuel trims.

05-21-2013, 08:37 PM	#24
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	EFILive has a custom operating system and info in the help files about wiring up a 12v+ switch to an unused pin that activates once you flip the switch. When you upgrade your os, you have more tables available that are already in the current file, just not used. This is available for my autocal customers and is pretty straight forward to do.

06-30-2017, 10:11 AM	#27
camrytt Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 592	You just need the e85 kit, pin activated and tuned to run it. I had a 15ish hp gain when I was just at normal bolt ons. You don't need to do anything with fuel pumps etc until over 500, basically __________________ Current: 2017 ZL1 A10 previous: 2019 1SS A10 previous: '14 L99, CAI intake, vmax ported tb, e85 kit, stage 2 cnc heads, speed engineering long tubes, custom high flows, resonated x pipe, muffler delete, qtp cut outs, gpi ss3 vvt Cam, zl1 pump and injectors, fti triple disc, mayhem motorsports trans cooler and tune, ngk spark plugs +red msd wires, 3.91 gears. Past: '12 LFX, full bolt ons + E85, 302hp/267tq

10-06-2017, 03:48 PM	#28
snk8bte01 04 TERMINATOR Drives: 2004 COBRA/12 CAMARO SS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: SANTA ANA Posts: 43	WHERE CAN I FIND THIS KIT? IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A KIT AND FOUND NOTHNG.... __________________ 2004 MUSTANG COBRA PULLIED UPR O/R X PIPE MAC CATBACK K&N CAI 458 RWHP 485RWTQ 12 LBS 2012 CAMARO SS DYNATECH LONG TUBES CUSTOM X PIPE CAI(UNKNOWN BRAND) 3.91 GEARS 425RWHP/428RWTQ

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