Apple Car Play

WDE · 06-09-2015, 08:25 PM

With GM adding the Apple Car Play/ Android Play feature to 2016 Camaros, will GM offer a factory navigation option since you can access your phone's nav on the touch screen with Siri played thru the speakers.

https://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/

DenverTaco07 · 06-09-2015, 10:21 PM

yes - phone is not a replacement for built in nav.

1. phone dies - no nav
2. lost phone - no nav
3. forget to pay your bill - no 4G LTE = no nav (?)
4. kid throws phone out the window = no nav

just my 2 cents...

94turbolsx · 06-10-2015, 01:40 AM

Yes. Carplay and Android Auto only operate in a layer on top of the OEM UI. You still get every aspect of MyLink including factory nav. You could be running for instance the spotify app in Carplay for music, then touch the MyLink app on the carplay screen to go back into Mylink to use the OEM nav while the music remains playing. Its all very seemless.

ssnowdy · 06-10-2015, 08:26 AM

Let's do the math - Built in nav ~800 and you have to purchase updates yearly. iPhone or Android Nav = FREE + live real time traffic updates, detours, etc. So yeah, save the 800 for another option on the car.

cwl011 · 06-10-2015, 08:35 AM

Yeh but I am sure they will make you pay for the apply play or android auto option. It should be cheaper but we will see.

SuperSound · 06-10-2015, 09:16 AM

Integration will be the selling point of the built-in NAV, i.e. directions appear on center cluster/HUD, speed limit info on route, probably a few other bells and whistles. Nothing you can't live without I'm sure.

Sintmk · 06-11-2015, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwl011

Yeh but I am sure they will make you pay for the apply play or android auto option. It should be cheaper but we will see.

Not from what I've read. GM to be the first to make standard across most of the line on the 7" screens. Apple only available on the 8" units at release (expect that update, but more reason to wait for the 50th)

http://www.wsj.com/articles/gm-to-of...ets-1432754125

(among other articles)

Hyundai was the first to put it on a model standard (Sonata)

cwl011 · 06-11-2015, 08:22 PM

Let's hope so, Android auto sealed the deal for me. Also that article say they will offer, that could go either way. Maybe it will be optional on the 4 and 6 cylinders and standard on the 8.

libertyforall · 06-12-2015, 01:23 AM

Outstanding questions for me on the new infotainment system include:

1. When will wireless CarPlay be supported, and will it be a firmware update?
2. I will be damned if I have to visit a GM dealer to update the firmware/operating system and applications in the infotainment system when the car supports both LTE and WiFi + Bluetooth! This needs to be over-the-air!

This article doesn't say enough...
http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/n...7-carplay.html

mt3130 · 06-12-2015, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by libertyforall

Outstanding questions for me on the new infotainment system include:

1. When will wireless CarPlay be supported, and will it be a firmware update?
2. I will be damned if I have to visit a GM dealer to update the firmware/operating system and applications in the infotainment system when the car supports both LTE and WiFi! This needs to be over-the-air!

This article doesn't say enough...
http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/n...7-carplay.html

There are ways to make phone mirroring wireless using a WiDi (not a typo) connection.

SuperSound · 06-12-2015, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mt3130

There are ways to make phone mirroring wireless using a WiDi (not a typo) connection.

And I don't believe I have heard either Apple or Google mention wireless mirroring coming anytime soon. If they go the WiDi route the car and phones will need new hardware. But as far as I know WiDi doesn't support control functiona through whatever screen you are mirroing too. I'm sure someone is working on a protocol to do it, but it will not be out soon and most likely new hardware will be needed.

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Jeffro19 · 06-12-2015, 08:21 AM

Built in NAV is the way to go. Yeah it's more expensive but much better than the small iPhone mounted on the dash

SuperSound · 06-12-2015, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Built in NAV is the way to go. Yeah it's more expensive but much better than the small iPhone mounted on the dash

Car Play projects your iPhone's screen onto myLink, so it will be the same size as built-in NAV. The only benefits to built-in will be directions popping up in the center cluster display or HUD.

cwl011 · 06-12-2015, 09:24 AM

As a software developer, I have an idea for them. Let me know if this would make sense. You have to have your phone connect to the car via bluetooth or usb, so why not update android auto via your phone? I shouldn't be that hard to do knowing that they update the infotainment systems firmware via that same usb port.

06-09-2015, 08:25 PM	#1
WDE Drives: 2010 Camaro SS (tuned L99) Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 12	Apple Car Play With GM adding the Apple Car Play/ Android Play feature to 2016 Camaros, will GM offer a factory navigation option since you can access your phone's nav on the touch screen with Siri played thru the speakers. https://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/ __________________ 2010 2SS IOM Tuned L99 since 08/2009

06-09-2015, 10:21 PM	#2
DenverTaco07 Drives: 2017 SS 1LE, 2017 Volt, 2013 Pilot Join Date: May 2014 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,274	yes - phone is not a replacement for built in nav. 1. phone dies - no nav 2. lost phone - no nav 3. forget to pay your bill - no 4G LTE = no nav (?) 4. kid throws phone out the window = no nav just my 2 cents... __________________ 2017 SS 1LE \| HBM \| Vortech V3-Si supercharger (620RWHP and 575ft lbs) \| PDR \| Black Bowties \| Illuminated Front Black Bowtie \| Illuminated Door Sills \| Smoked Tails \| vented seats mod Last edited by DenverTaco07; 06-09-2015 at 10:50 PM.

06-10-2015, 01:40 AM	#3
94turbolsx Drives: 2001 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Granger , IN Posts: 341	Yes. Carplay and Android Auto only operate in a layer on top of the OEM UI. You still get every aspect of MyLink including factory nav. You could be running for instance the spotify app in Carplay for music, then touch the MyLink app on the carplay screen to go back into Mylink to use the OEM nav while the music remains playing. Its all very seemless. __________________ 2001 Camaro SS- M6 cone killer

06-10-2015, 09:16 AM	#6
SuperSound Drives: '17 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 5,063 View My Garage	Integration will be the selling point of the built-in NAV, i.e. directions appear on center cluster/HUD, speed limit info on route, probably a few other bells and whistles. Nothing you can't live without I'm sure. __________________ Current: '17 2SS Hyper Blue, A8, MRC, NPP Past: '99 SS Camaro A4, '73 Camaro 383 A3 "Voices in your head are not considered insider information." 3800 Status - 6/16/16 (Built!) 6000 status - 6/29/16 (Delivered!)

06-12-2015, 01:23 AM	#9
libertyforall Drives: '01 Camaro SS 'Vert; '02 Camaro RS Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: IL Posts: 363	Outstanding questions for me on the new infotainment system include: 1. When will wireless CarPlay be supported, and will it be a firmware update? 2. I will be damned if I have to visit a GM dealer to update the firmware/operating system and applications in the infotainment system when the car supports both LTE and WiFi + Bluetooth! This needs to be over-the-air! This article doesn't say enough... http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/n...7-carplay.html __________________ Last edited by libertyforall; 06-12-2015 at 11:02 AM. Reason: add BT

06-10-2015, 08:26 AM	#4
ssnowdy Drives: Jeep Join Date: May 2015 Location: OH Posts: 2	Let's do the math - Built in nav ~800 and you have to purchase updates yearly. iPhone or Android Nav = FREE + live real time traffic updates, detours, etc. So yeah, save the 800 for another option on the car.

06-10-2015, 08:35 AM	#5
cwl011 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2015 Location: Media, PA Posts: 349	Yeh but I am sure they will make you pay for the apply play or android auto option. It should be cheaper but we will see.

06-11-2015, 08:22 PM	#8
cwl011 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2015 Location: Media, PA Posts: 349	Let's hope so, Android auto sealed the deal for me. Also that article say they will offer, that could go either way. Maybe it will be optional on the 4 and 6 cylinders and standard on the 8.

06-12-2015, 08:21 AM	#12
Jeffro19 Drives: 2018 ZL1 6M, Silverado High Country Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 2,101	Built in NAV is the way to go. Yeah it's more expensive but much better than the small iPhone mounted on the dash __________________ Previous Camaro's - 2002 Z28 6 spd manual, T tops, Sebring Silver - 2010 2SS 6 spd manual, Cyber Gray Metallic Current Vehicles - 2018 ZL1 Red Hot 6 spd manual, Carbon Hood, Sunroof 2019 Silverado High Country, Daily Driver

06-12-2015, 09:24 AM	#14
cwl011 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2015 Location: Media, PA Posts: 349	As a software developer, I have an idea for them. Let me know if this would make sense. You have to have your phone connect to the car via bluetooth or usb, so why not update android auto via your phone? I shouldn't be that hard to do knowing that they update the infotainment systems firmware via that same usb port.

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