[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by RLHMARINES

Fixed it for you.

Thx!

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by LesserO2Evils

........and the universe has been restored to its proper order......

Back to pimp slappin Stangs.

Funny cuz it's true.

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Found it

Nice find. This is what I expected/ seem to remember. They stop far better than GM advertises.

[Imp]

Originally Posted by cyberbro

Just thinking out loud here, but everyone is so hung up on the weight of the car. I understand how it impacts the performance surly, but how many people here are so concerned about every pound on the car BUT they are carrying an extra 50 lbs in gut!??!?!?! lol

Because when you compare 3900 (+50 gut lbs) to 3685 (+50 gut lbs)... You're still over 200 lbs lighter.

--kC

[SUKXOST]

Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

I would say it would include better wheels/tires, better brakes, better gearing in the differential, strut tower brace, and some more aero.

inclined to agree here( IF 1LE version was offered). Impressive "claimed" numbers thus far. GM FTW

[RLHMARINES]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Thx!

Your welcome, I knew what you meant to say.

[iPODFAN11]

So its a given that the SS is a deadly weapon (could catch a C7 driver with his pants down maybe) but those T4 and V6 times are VERY impressive. A V6 A6 could hang very close to a Gen 5 SS M6 if the driver isn't paying attention.

[ULTRAZLS1]

So according to GM the new base SS stops 3 feet shorter from 60 than the 1le.

[IOMike]

Some are saying that GM lies on weight and the proof is in the ATS-V being over 3700lbs when GM says it weighs 3700lbs. Well GM doesn't say it weighs 3700lbs, they say it weighs "3700lbs estimated". Chevy is telling us straight up what the 1ss weighs as a "base" model (manual trans). There is no room for error here. It's probably not weighed with a full tank of gas, but that's the weight.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by IOMike

Some are saying that GM lies on weight and the proof is in the ATS-V being over 3700lbs when GM says it weighs 3700lbs. Well GM doesn't say it weighs 3700lbs, they say it weighs "3700lbs estimated". Chevy is telling us straight up what the 1ss weighs as a "base" model (manual trans). There is no room for error here. It's probably not weighed with a full tank of gas, but that's the weight.

They say curb weight.

It is full tank.

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by SUKXOST

inclined to agree here( IF 1LE version was offered). Impressive "claimed" numbers thus far. GM FTW

I am inclined to think they will at some point offer a "1LE" type performance package. Keep in mind the differential gear ratios are heavily influenced by the CAFE standard. Offering a faster rear end in a 1LE package allows for most SS cars to give a bit better FE to meet the CAFE standard, but also allows track/race enthusiasts to get the faster rear if they so choose.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by cyberbro

Just thinking out loud here, but everyone is so hung up on the weight of the car. I understand how it impacts the performance surly, but how many people here are so concerned about every pound on the car BUT they are carrying an extra 50 lbs in gut!??!?!?! lol

GM has always engineered their cars thinking in terms of ounces and pounds. The rest of the world thinks in terms of grams and kilograms.

The ATS was the first car GM designed thinking in terms of grams.

You see the results.

[Stex]

V6 in the 13s at 100+ and no wing? My how does it stay on the strip?

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by IOMike

Some are saying that GM lies on weight and the proof is in the ATS-V being over 3700lbs when GM says it weighs 3700lbs. Well GM doesn't say it weighs 3700lbs, they say it weighs "3700lbs estimated". Chevy is telling us straight up what the 1ss weighs as a "base" model (manual trans). There is no room for error here. It's probably not weighed with a full tank of gas, but that's the weight.

GM shows 3875lbs for the 5th gen 1LE. MT test shows 3886lbs for the same. 11lbs...that's pretty damn close. More fanboys in denial over there. No reason to believe any greater difference than that.

[DrkPhx]

Well done GM. Those are fantastic acceleration numbers. Can't wait to see the performance numbers on the next Z car.