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06-27-2013, 10:03 PM | #16 |
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What qualifies a vehicle for a gas guzzler tax? The EPA ratings on my V6 Jeep are actually worse than my V8 Camaro, and there isn't a GG tax on that. I know this all boils down to BS govt. regulations, but man, you'd think they'd find some way around it. There's nothing sadder than putting a big 6L engine in a performance car, and then cutting its nuts off with AFM
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06-28-2013, 12:58 AM | #17 |
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If the Gen 6 does get the LT1, like the Stingray, it will have AFM on the manual and the auto. I suspect Range will sell a lot of those modules. I have one on my Envoy 5.3L until I get the Camaro.
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06-30-2013, 07:39 PM | #18 |
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Put it in sport and drive it in manual mode with the paddle shifters. In manual mode AFM will not kick in.
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06-30-2013, 07:40 PM | #19 |
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range v8, works great and the dealer cant detect it. just dont leave it plugged in when u bring it in for service!! lol
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07-01-2013, 08:00 AM | #20 | |
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Second, the car must have a combined EPA rating of 22.5 MPG to avoid the GG Tax. Less than that and it gets progressively worse. I think as high as $7,700. Either way it starts at over $3,000. For a car that is really low volume and arguably is a very premium sedan Chevy probably said ok. But again, I can read the threads 3 years ago on how Chevy was a big fat fail because an SS cost $3,000 more than a Mustang. It's pretty much that simple. The manual transmission car met the threshold. The automatic, as you would expect, got worse mileage. Hence a special engine, the L99.
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07-01-2013, 08:09 AM | #21 |
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If I could get my car/truck to run on 2 cyl and get 50+ mpg, I'd do it. Why do you need 8 cyl at a steady slow cruise?
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07-01-2013, 09:12 AM | #22 | |
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Also, the 22.5 number doesn't seem to make sense. According to the stats http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Power...ro&srchtyp=ymm The combined MPG for the Camaros looks like this: V6 - 21 L99 - 14 LS3 - 16 This is interesting....I didn't realize there was such a difference between regular and premium gas. According to the chart, the auto will get 18 combined on regular vs 14 on premium. Anyway, not trying to start an argument...just saying that you'd think GM could've found another way around this. I don't know, make AFM active only in D and not sport mode, something like that. What's a joke is, deactivating AFM actually got people better MPGs, so what's the point of it anyway? No one really needs 8 cylinders. My point is, I paid for 8 and I want all 8
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07-02-2013, 08:38 PM | #23 |
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I'd like to see certified test results where someone got better mileage not anecdotal stories.
AFM isn't 5 mpg better its closer to 1 which for EPA is HUGE. So I am skeptical anyone could see this difference without a very repeatable test. Also combined MPG is based on EPA highway and city combined. So no way an L99 or LS3 is 14 and 16. Those are barely the city numbers.
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Honestly, I don't care what the reasoning is behind it. AFM does not below on a muscle car. End of story.
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07-02-2013, 11:30 PM | #25 |
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the OP's thread has officially been jacked! LOL
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07-03-2013, 12:36 AM | #26 |
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I have to pull plugs on mine to have AFM, you L99 guys are lucky
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07-03-2013, 01:12 AM | #27 |
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07-03-2013, 02:24 PM | #28 |
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We can do a custom tune on your SS that will deactivate the AFM.
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