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I have driven it on back roads and I love the way it handles. We took all back roads when driving it home from Tom Henry. I would say it handles as well as my wife's BMW Z4 for the type of driving that I do. However, I probably don't drive it as aggressively as you might on back roads. I have no doubt that the Z4 would fair better in curves at high speed. However, the Camaro is MUCH more comfortable and gets much more attention. It certainly handles way better than my 69 Zs, which weigh in at 3,500 lbs. The reasons are probably obvious: 21st century suspension, better steering, turning radius, etc. I have also been thinking about your question and I am having a very hard time seeing how you can reasonably eliminate 450 lbs from this car. Unfortunately, I may not make the meeting on the 26th. |
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And also, thanks for noticing I'm not a ricer. Apparently, my signature didn't quite give that away. That's great that some of these people are "stuck on GM" or whatever, but I'm not. I enjoy a variety of performance machines, and as long as it's either RWD or AWD, I'm there. I wouldn't drag-race an STi, the same as I wouldn't rally a Camaro. Apparently, it's a mortal sin on this forum to have a respect and admiration for cars other than those manufactured by GM or with something other than a RWD drivetrain. Quote:
Someone asked, "What sort of power/weight ratio are you looking to achieve?" I'd like to whittle it down to around 7.8 pounds for every horse. I'm sure I'm going to get more than a few "get a supercharger" responses, and while I can do that, a supercharger isn't going to lower the weight or help me achieve better handling. |
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09-18-2009, 12:45 PM | #88 |
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without trying to upset die hard loyalists on this forum...
at the end of the day the car you might be looking for is next year's mustang with the 5.0 coyote engine...i don't know how much weight it will add to the gt but it's speculated to come in around 400 horsepower all i know is that i love my SS and couldn't have asked for more in my first brand new car that's my 2 cents
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Dragoneye...... Your wisdom far exceeds your age in real years. I'm always amazed at your reasoning. God Bless you.
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09-18-2009, 01:13 PM | #94 |
This car is a lil on the heavy side, but it handles well for what it is.
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Now, if he's flexible on the weight, someone can probably help him. |
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09-18-2009, 01:24 PM | #96 |
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Someone said something along the lines of "I want it to weigh less and get better fuel economy" So do we. It's that CAFE thing.
How to reduce weight...... well........we could use thinner sheetmetal - but then you get the 'oil-can' effect each time you wash or polish it -- so we didn't. We could use lots of Titanium as we do with a Corvette -- but that raises the price -- so we didn't. We could get rid of a lot of sound dampening........but that makes for a noisy interior (kinda like the Z06) -- so we didn't. We could have made the seats lighter and smaller -- but that would make them more uncomfortable on longer trips and it would cost more (in some cases) -- so we didn't. There are any number of things we could do........... ...............but let's now look at reality, shall we? If we want this Camaro to succeed - it has to excel in a lot of areas -- refinement (while not losing its heritage of overall performance -- quietness at 70mph -- interiors that allow you to drive it from coast to coast without feeling like you did -- a solid feel to the body and sheetmetal -- absence of 'flutter' at speed -- IRS -- the list is quite lengthy. RatedZ -- you may not feel that the above is important -- and that is certainly your perogative. However, those looking for reducing weight are in the very small minority......the majority of owners want a Camaro that's more refined. (go read any major Camaro site from 1996-2002 -- and you'll see what I mean. So -- yes, you could take out weight - but I won't even start to guess what should be removed -- I'd suggest Pedders -- they have a selection of suspension pieces that I believe would take care of the 'feeling' that you get from the Camaro. One last thing: As you know: we never rest. Remember when the C5 was the 'end-all?' - and then there was the Z06 - and then there was the C6 -- and then there was the C6-Z06 -- and then there was the ZR1....... .........we are far from finished.................
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I've had mine (2SS/RS LS3) for a couple of months now and it handles decently for a stock car. You can feel its wieghtyness when you're throwing it around the back roads but isn't it really intended to be a muscle car? I'd be willing to bet you could install some moderately priced suspension mods and balance out the that heavy feel. I wouldn't want to go overboard with tightning it up because then you end up with a very uncomfortable ride. Personally I like the feel because it doesn't feel like its going to come apart when stretching it out.
I agree some tend to get a little harsh however the OP was a little harsh in his opening salvo so I guess you should expect it. Call it what it is, a heavy car, and then ask for thoughts and the responses would have been reduced to positive input... JMHO |
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