03-15-2018, 02:26 PM | #29 |
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That’s funny. There are tons of nitrous guys running a 150 shot. You don’t have to be an expert or have a progressive system. Typically you bolt on a kit and your safety components consist of a wot switch, window switch and maybe a timing retard module(or some tuning). This thread is about basic street cars that can drive to the track and click off 9’s.
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dropped a valve in the 6.2. now running a drop in rods and piston 5.3
best et 5.83@121 with the 5.3 http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=465472 |
03-15-2018, 02:51 PM | #30 | |
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The same reason why guys spend 6-7grand for +150 hp supercharger setup. Nitrous is much easier to install anyway and cheaper. Some just want a nice bump in power. This thread was about what kind of setup for bottom 10's to high 9's. Not 3 stage nitrous big block setups for 6's.
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03-15-2018, 04:36 PM | #31 | |
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Funny thing is that it was always impossible to get someone to race it. And most of the races I got into just lead to drama and excuses. Its really talking about 2 different class of cars. If you bought your SS trying to take on race cars with inspection stickers then you should build a race car with an inspection sticker. If your wanting to go fast with all the luxuries then it just cost money. There are way more DD cars running around then race cars with inspection stickers. Don't have to beat everyone. You can go cheap but at the level of the cars Pray was talking about AKA low 10's or High 9's. Pray say on E85 on the H/C setup the stock fuel system is up near done. So to spray on top of it you would want a stand alone setup for 1k and been done.
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03-15-2018, 04:48 PM | #32 | |
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dropped a valve in the 6.2. now running a drop in rods and piston 5.3
best et 5.83@121 with the 5.3 http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=465472 |
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03-15-2018, 06:01 PM | #33 | |
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This is a nice setup imo. http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/efi-wet...allery-image-1
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03-15-2018, 07:22 PM | #34 |
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I am not sure about the ZL1 pump theory. At least it didn't work for the blower car in the original post. I got no more head room out of it than I had before it. Ran out of pump at 540rw commanding and seeing 12.0 and fading fast. No matter what pressure I commanded that thing dropped down to around 48-53 psi. Hopefully the low side was good to go but the high side just couldn't pump it. I now have the LT4 injectors and high side pump so we will see what happens tomorrow on the dyno.
If it was the high side that was the limiter then I can see a bottle system plumbed into the low side working out. On pump gas at least.
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03-15-2018, 08:54 PM | #35 | |
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03-15-2018, 09:16 PM | #36 |
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Pray..you are a smart guy and obviously know this platform...
It’s why I am shocked I have to post this... If you are willing to spend $10k on a Motor build, you should spend it on the motor! $10k gets you to 525whp easy with the realibility/drivability of stock and plenty of headroom to go FI with no worries. Redline will do a 416 stroker with 600whp for $15k. THEN you can add boost for 800+ Motor build is ALWAYS better than FI on a wet sump due to heat/weight/durability issues.
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03-15-2018, 09:58 PM | #37 | |
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03-16-2018, 06:44 AM | #38 |
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You're making an all-motor solution look much more appealing, Brett.
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03-16-2018, 08:11 AM | #39 |
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Now we just need to have Brett see how an RPM M6 to auto conversion would help the NA manual cars:
LS-series SFI flexplate (6 bolt) Torque Converter - Precision Industries - any stall, single disk Level V 4L80E, billet input shaft, HD sprag/drum assembly Camaro 4L80e Crossmember Kit with transmission mount 2010 Camaro DSS Driveshaft 4L80E MSD Atomic Transmission Controller with Wiring Harness, PRNDL Switch with Wiring Harness and Shifter Lever Cost is $7.7K Anyhow, I suspect staying M6 and adding a 150 shot N20 for NA HCI cars would be cheaper for achieving times comparable to A8 cars.
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03-16-2018, 10:09 AM | #40 | |
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03-16-2018, 10:39 AM | #41 |
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Yea I remember the days when guys were running 100 shots on LS1's with stock plugs and no timing pulled. They lived doing it too. Small shots are pretty simple and don't require a whole lot of attention to detail. Start spraying 150+, then I would definitely think things through a little more.
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03-19-2018, 11:30 AM | #42 |
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Thanks for putting this together Pray.
Quarter mile racing these cars is not a poor man's game.
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